<div dir="ltr">Hi Jos,<div><br></div><div>the first bullet is about identity, the second bullet about identifier.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for checking, cheers</div><div><br></div><div> Jiri</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 11:36 AM Jos Westerbeke <<a href="mailto:jos.westerbeke@eur.nl">jos.westerbeke@eur.nl</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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Hi Jiri, Davide,</div>
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I have the suggestion to change "institutional identity" to "institutional pseudonymous identifier as described in principle 4.B [1]"</div>
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See comment in document.</div>
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Best,</div>
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<div id="gmail-m_-3134897631108324465divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size:11pt" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> FIM4L <<a href="mailto:fim4l-bounces@lists.daasi.de" target="_blank">fim4l-bounces@lists.daasi.de</a>> on behalf of Jiri Pavlik <<a href="mailto:jiri.pavlik@techlib.cz" target="_blank">jiri.pavlik@techlib.cz</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> 09 November 2020 12:42<br>
<b>To:</b> Davide Vaghetti <<a href="mailto:davide.vaghetti@garr.it" target="_blank">davide.vaghetti@garr.it</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:fim4l@lists.daasi.de" target="_blank">fim4l@lists.daasi.de</a> <<a href="mailto:fim4l@lists.daasi.de" target="_blank">fim4l@lists.daasi.de</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fim4l] Fwd: InCites now requires users to supply email address and create a new set of credentials</font>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi Davide,
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<div>perfect for me :-) </div>
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<div> Jiri</div>
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<div dir="ltr">On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 12:27 PM Davide Vaghetti <<a href="mailto:davide.vaghetti@garr.it" target="_blank">davide.vaghetti@garr.it</a>> wrote:<br>
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On 09/11/20 12:07, Jiri Pavlik wrote:<br>
> Hi Davide,<br>
> <br>
> great, I slightly edited the text to change the original GARR<br>
> perspective to FIM4L one.<br>
<br>
Thanks!<br>
<br>
> <br>
> I'd suggest to address the letter to following Clarivate representatives:<br>
> <a href="mailto:josef.jilek@clarivate.com" target="_blank">josef.jilek@clarivate.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:josef.jilek@clarivate.com" target="_blank">josef.jilek@clarivate.com</a>><br>
> <a href="mailto:eniko.szasz@clarivate.com" target="_blank">eniko.szasz@clarivate.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:eniko.szasz@clarivate.com" target="_blank">eniko.szasz@clarivate.com</a>><br>
> <a href="mailto:heidi.muller@clarivate.com" target="_blank">heidi.muller@clarivate.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:heidi.muller@clarivate.com" target="_blank">heidi.muller@clarivate.com</a>><br>
<br>
It works for me. I suggest to give some time for the people in the list<br>
to comment on the letter and then I'd sent it by noon Tomorrow if that's<br>
ok for you.<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
Davide<br>
<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Cheers<br>
> <br>
> Jiri<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 11:31 AM Davide Vaghetti <<a href="mailto:davide.vaghetti@garr.it" target="_blank">davide.vaghetti@garr.it</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:davide.vaghetti@garr.it" target="_blank">davide.vaghetti@garr.it</a>>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> Hello Jiri,<br>
> <br>
> On 09/11/20 10:16, Jiri Pavlik wrote:<br>
> > Hi Davide,<br>
> ><br>
> > I think we can prepare the cover letter at the Google Drive<br>
> document [1] <br>
> > and once the letter is sent to Clarivate representatives put a copy to<br>
> > FIM4L <br>
> > documents [2]. Sounds good?<br>
> ><br>
> <br>
> Sure! I've gave it a go with the text I've already prepared a few weeks<br>
> ago. I think it does some refining, but it should work as a start.<br>
> <br>
> Cheers,<br>
> Davide<br>
> <br>
> > Cheers<br>
> ><br>
> > Jiri<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> 1. <a href="https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fdocument%2Fd%2F1W1ZhKdJXkBiOvhKcm1PDvcUaPVrbFlKJmKU1_WgKno8%2Fedit%3Fusp%3Dsharing&data=04%7C01%7Cjos.westerbeke%40eur.nl%7Cd977cb3a2d1844132d2b08d88550e2ff%7C715902d6f63e4b8d929b4bb170bad492%7C0%7C0%7C637405929745566751%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=B3zTLBVUkzm28Gt7UNjdqMqRxhIBELHUcb03OZE8ACw%3D&reserved=0" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1W1ZhKdJXkBiOvhKcm1PDvcUaPVrbFlKJmKU1_WgKno8/edit?usp=sharing</a><br>
> > 2. <a href="https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.fim4l.org%2F%3Fpage_id%3D269&data=04%7C01%7Cjos.westerbeke%40eur.nl%7Cd977cb3a2d1844132d2b08d88550e2ff%7C715902d6f63e4b8d929b4bb170bad492%7C0%7C0%7C637405929745576747%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=4tK%2FQE%2BkVSt%2BqnTj2UNEFsDMvSRQX5lwt22rsZ%2BIYhs%3D&reserved=0" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.fim4l.org/?page_id=269</a><br>
> ><br>
> > On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 10:02 AM Davide Vaghetti<br>
> <<a href="mailto:davide.vaghetti@garr.it" target="_blank">davide.vaghetti@garr.it</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:davide.vaghetti@garr.it" target="_blank">davide.vaghetti@garr.it</a>><br>
> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:davide.vaghetti@garr.it" target="_blank">davide.vaghetti@garr.it</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:davide.vaghetti@garr.it" target="_blank">davide.vaghetti@garr.it</a>>>><br>
> wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> > Hello Jiri,<br>
> ><br>
> > thanks for this! I totally agree with the recommendations and<br>
> I'll be<br>
> > happy to help writing a cover letter if needed.<br>
> ><br>
> > I also have a side proposal/request on top of it. IMO it would<br>
> be great<br>
> > if the letter sent to Clarivate could be published on the<br>
> fim4l website,<br>
> > so I, as others, could openly refer to it for further<br>
> communications<br>
> > with Clarivate.<br>
> ><br>
> > What do you think?<br>
> ><br>
> > Cheers,<br>
> > Davide<br>
> ><br>
> > On 09/11/20 09:38, Jiri Pavlik wrote:<br>
> > > Dear all,<br>
> > ><br>
> > > I believe that everyone is happy about our recommendations for<br>
> > Clarivate<br>
> > > regarding federated authentication at InCites -<br>
> > > <br>
> > ><br>
> > <br>
> <a href="https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fdocument%2Fd%2F1W1ZhKdJXkBiOvhKcm1PDvcUaPVrbFlKJmKU1_WgKno8%2Fedit&data=04%7C01%7Cjos.westerbeke%40eur.nl%7Cd977cb3a2d1844132d2b08d88550e2ff%7C715902d6f63e4b8d929b4bb170bad492%7C0%7C0%7C637405929745576747%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=ih97lyMKCMhCKGS13FvUJyPofessAMj70%2FoE8afh5lM%3D&reserved=0" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1W1ZhKdJXkBiOvhKcm1PDvcUaPVrbFlKJmKU1_WgKno8/edit</a><br>
> > ><br>
> > > I am going to reach out Clarivate representatives within few<br>
> days<br>
> > with Cc <br>
> > > to FIM4L list as we agreed on FIM4L WG call last week.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Kind regards<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Jiri<br>
> > > <br>
> > ><br>
> > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 7:27 PM Peter Gietz<br>
> <<a href="mailto:peter.gietz@daasi.de" target="_blank">peter.gietz@daasi.de</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:peter.gietz@daasi.de" target="_blank">peter.gietz@daasi.de</a>><br>
> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:peter.gietz@daasi.de" target="_blank">peter.gietz@daasi.de</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:peter.gietz@daasi.de" target="_blank">peter.gietz@daasi.de</a>>><br>
> > > <mailto:<a href="mailto:peter.gietz@daasi.de" target="_blank">peter.gietz@daasi.de</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:peter.gietz@daasi.de" target="_blank">peter.gietz@daasi.de</a>><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:peter.gietz@daasi.de" target="_blank">peter.gietz@daasi.de</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:peter.gietz@daasi.de" target="_blank">peter.gietz@daasi.de</a>>>>> wrote:<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Hi Jiri,<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Thanks for the update.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Cheers,<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Peter<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Am 20.10.20 um 10:27 schrieb Jiri Pavlik:<br>
> > >> Hi Peter,<br>
> > >><br>
> > >> we discussed what we can do on a call with Davide and Peter<br>
> > >> Schober and<br>
> > >> agreed that FIM4L should approach Clarivate regarding bad<br>
> > >> federated authentication<br>
> > >> implementation. There is a draft what FIM4L could<br>
> suggest to<br>
> > >> Clarivate:<br>
> > >><br>
> > >> <br>
> > <br>
> <a href="https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fdocument%2Fd%2F1W1ZhKdJXkBiOvhKcm1PDvcUaPVrbFlKJmKU1_WgKno8%2Fedit%3Fusp%3Dsharing&data=04%7C01%7Cjos.westerbeke%40eur.nl%7Cd977cb3a2d1844132d2b08d88550e2ff%7C715902d6f63e4b8d929b4bb170bad492%7C0%7C0%7C637405929745586740%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=rHGN58uIFdVT6qGfAYTECb8RDhOKJW0aGV1SFMrCViE%3D&reserved=0" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1W1ZhKdJXkBiOvhKcm1PDvcUaPVrbFlKJmKU1_WgKno8/edit?usp=sharing</a><br>
> > >><br>
> > >> All the best<br>
> > >><br>
> > >> Jiri<br>
> > >><br>
> > >><br>
> > >><br>
> > >> On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 7:08 PM Peter Gietz<br>
> > <<a href="mailto:peter.gietz@daasi.de" target="_blank">peter.gietz@daasi.de</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:peter.gietz@daasi.de" target="_blank">peter.gietz@daasi.de</a>><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:peter.gietz@daasi.de" target="_blank">peter.gietz@daasi.de</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:peter.gietz@daasi.de" target="_blank">peter.gietz@daasi.de</a>>><br>
> > >> <mailto:<a href="mailto:peter.gietz@daasi.de" target="_blank">peter.gietz@daasi.de</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:peter.gietz@daasi.de" target="_blank">peter.gietz@daasi.de</a>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:peter.gietz@daasi.de" target="_blank">peter.gietz@daasi.de</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:peter.gietz@daasi.de" target="_blank">peter.gietz@daasi.de</a>>>>><br>
> > wrote:<br>
> > >><br>
> > >> Hi all,<br>
> > >><br>
> > >> welcome here Davide, your presence here is much<br>
> appreciated.<br>
> > >><br>
> > >> Yes it is obvious that more and more publishers see a<br>
> > value in<br>
> > >> collecting data ...<br>
> > >><br>
> > >> May be we should think about a page on our website<br>
> with a<br>
> > list of<br>
> > >> "Publishers that are conformant with the FIM4L<br>
> > >> recommendations". This<br>
> > >> could be an insentive for publishers to not go the<br>
> way we<br>
> > >> observed here.<br>
> > >> Just an idea....<br>
> > >><br>
> > >> What else could we do to convince publishers to be<br>
> > conformant?<br>
> > >><br>
> > >> Cheers,<br>
> > >><br>
> > >> Peter<br>
> > >><br>
> > >> Am 12.10.2020 um 09:22 schrieb Jos Westerbeke:<br>
> > >> > Hello Davide,<br>
> > >> ><br>
> > >> > Thanks for joining and for your email.<br>
> > >> ><br>
> > >> > Things are coming together at a perfect timing I<br>
> guess.<br>
> > >> We're almost ready to publish the final version of<br>
> FIM4L<br>
> > >> Principles & Recommendations.<br>
> > >> ><br>
> > >> > The idea is that libraries worldwide can refer to<br>
> a common<br>
> > >> accepted document which describes how we<br>
> (libraries) want to<br>
> > >> establish federated SSO connections with publishers.<br>
> > >> ><br>
> > >> > Since a few weeks we have a new website where you<br>
> can find<br>
> > >> this document: <a href="https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.fim4l.org%2F%3Fpage_id%3D257&data=04%7C01%7Cjos.westerbeke%40eur.nl%7Cd977cb3a2d1844132d2b08d88550e2ff%7C715902d6f63e4b8d929b4bb170bad492%7C0%7C0%7C637405929745586740%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=%2F0yA%2FoBSzpEGuapPk1sMItCjHbCJ3HabUwQPvUOl718%3D&reserved=0" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">
https://www.fim4l.org/?page_id=257</a><br>
> > >> ><br>
> > >> > But be patient: I'll send an announcement to this<br>
> list,<br>
> > >> probably by the end of this week, with a new<br>
> graphical update<br>
> > >> of the FIM4L Principles & Recommendations.<br>
> > >> ><br>
> > >> > When all things ready, the official published<br>
> document will<br>
> > >> be backed by Europe LIBER libraries (400+) and may<br>
> be of<br>
> > great<br>
> > >> value for you to refer too by speaking with publishers.<br>
> > >> ><br>
> > >> > All the best!<br>
> > >> > Jos<br>
> > >> ><br>
> > >> > Jos Westerbeke<br>
> > >> > Library IT Specialist / Demandmanager | Erasmus<br>
> University<br>
> > >> Rotterdam | Burgemeester Oudlaan 50, Library | 3062PA<br>
> > >> Rotterdam | <a href="mailto:jos.westerbeke@eur.nl" target="_blank">
jos.westerbeke@eur.nl</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:jos.westerbeke@eur.nl" target="_blank">jos.westerbeke@eur.nl</a>><br>
> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:jos.westerbeke@eur.nl" target="_blank">jos.westerbeke@eur.nl</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:jos.westerbeke@eur.nl" target="_blank">jos.westerbeke@eur.nl</a>>><br>
> > >> <mailto:<a href="mailto:jos.westerbeke@eur.nl" target="_blank">jos.westerbeke@eur.nl</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:jos.westerbeke@eur.nl" target="_blank">jos.westerbeke@eur.nl</a>><br>
> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:jos.westerbeke@eur.nl" target="_blank">jos.westerbeke@eur.nl</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:jos.westerbeke@eur.nl" target="_blank">jos.westerbeke@eur.nl</a>>>><br>
> | +31 640295513<br>
> > >> > <br>
> > >> > <br>
> > >> > Op 09-10-20 16:43 heeft FIM4L namens Davide Vaghetti<br>
> > >> <<a href="mailto:fim4l-bounces@lists.daasi.de" target="_blank">fim4l-bounces@lists.daasi.de</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:fim4l-bounces@lists.daasi.de" target="_blank">fim4l-bounces@lists.daasi.de</a>><br>
> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:fim4l-bounces@lists.daasi.de" target="_blank">fim4l-bounces@lists.daasi.de</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:fim4l-bounces@lists.daasi.de" target="_blank">fim4l-bounces@lists.daasi.de</a>>><br>
> > >> <mailto:<a href="mailto:fim4l-bounces@lists.daasi.de" target="_blank">fim4l-bounces@lists.daasi.de</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:fim4l-bounces@lists.daasi.de" target="_blank">fim4l-bounces@lists.daasi.de</a>><br>
> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:fim4l-bounces@lists.daasi.de" target="_blank">fim4l-bounces@lists.daasi.de</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:fim4l-bounces@lists.daasi.de" target="_blank">fim4l-bounces@lists.daasi.de</a>>>> namens<br>
> > >> <a href="mailto:davide.vaghetti@garr.it" target="_blank">davide.vaghetti@garr.it</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:davide.vaghetti@garr.it" target="_blank">davide.vaghetti@garr.it</a>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:davide.vaghetti@garr.it" target="_blank">davide.vaghetti@garr.it</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:davide.vaghetti@garr.it" target="_blank">davide.vaghetti@garr.it</a>>><br>
> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:davide.vaghetti@garr.it" target="_blank">davide.vaghetti@garr.it</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:davide.vaghetti@garr.it" target="_blank">davide.vaghetti@garr.it</a>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:davide.vaghetti@garr.it" target="_blank">davide.vaghetti@garr.it</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:davide.vaghetti@garr.it" target="_blank">davide.vaghetti@garr.it</a>>>>><br>
> > >> geschreven:<br>
> > >> ><br>
> > >> > Hello Heather,<br>
> > >> > <br>
> > >> > On 09/10/20 15:54, Heather Flanagan wrote:<br>
> > >> > > Hello and welcome, Davide!<br>
> > >> > ><br>
> > >> > > I’m not sure if you’re asking a question<br>
> about what<br>
> > >> Clarivate is doing,<br>
> > >> > > if you’re asking if anyone has knowledge of<br>
> other<br>
> > >> similar patterns, or<br>
> > >> > > if this is just an FYI?<br>
> > >> > ><br>
> > >> > <br>
> > >> > Yes, good point. Well, the thing is that<br>
> Clarivate's<br>
> > >> behavior is the<br>
> > >> > exact opposite of the FIM4L recommendations,<br>
> so I'd<br>
> > like<br>
> > >> the advice of<br>
> > >> > this community in how to deal with this<br>
> Publisher and<br>
> > >> possibly doing it<br>
> > >> > not alone.<br>
> > >> > <br>
> > >> > As Peter was pointing out, Clarivate's additional<br>
> > >> registration flow is<br>
> > >> > breaking federated access and probably some<br>
> contracts<br>
> > >> and privacy law as<br>
> > >> > well, but I'd prefer to restrain from the<br>
> legalities at<br>
> > >> least until it<br>
> > >> > strictly necessary. Not to count that IDEM,<br>
> as other<br>
> > >> identity<br>
> > >> > federations, are not direct parties in this<br>
> type of<br>
> > >> contracts.<br>
> > >> > <br>
> > >> > Cheers,<br>
> > >> > Davide<br>
> > >> > <br>
> > >> > > Heather Flanagan — Translator of Geek to Human<br>
> > >> > ><br>
> > >> <br>
> > <br>
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> > >> > > On Oct 9, 2020, 2:45 AM -0700, Davide Vaghetti<br>
> > >> > > <<a href="mailto:davide.vaghetti@garr.it" target="_blank">davide.vaghetti@garr.it</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:davide.vaghetti@garr.it" target="_blank">davide.vaghetti@garr.it</a>><br>
> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:davide.vaghetti@garr.it" target="_blank">davide.vaghetti@garr.it</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:davide.vaghetti@garr.it" target="_blank">davide.vaghetti@garr.it</a>>><br>
> > >> <mailto:<a href="mailto:davide.vaghetti@garr.it" target="_blank">davide.vaghetti@garr.it</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:davide.vaghetti@garr.it" target="_blank">davide.vaghetti@garr.it</a>><br>
> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:davide.vaghetti@garr.it" target="_blank">davide.vaghetti@garr.it</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:davide.vaghetti@garr.it" target="_blank">davide.vaghetti@garr.it</a>>>>>, wrote:<br>
> > >> > >> Hello everyone,<br>
> > >> > >><br>
> > >> > >> I've sent this message to the FOG mailing<br>
> list about<br>
> > >> Clarivate's InCites<br>
> > >> > >> additional registration flow, but some<br>
> Colleagues<br>
> > >> suggested that FIM4L<br>
> > >> > >> would have been a better venue for the topic.<br>
> > >> > >><br>
> > >> > >> Regards,<br>
> > >> > >> Davide<br>
> > >> > >><br>
> > >> > >> -------- Forwarded Message --------<br>
> > >> > >> Subject: InCites now requires users to<br>
> supply email<br>
> > >> address and create a<br>
> > >> > >> new set of credentials<br>
> > >> > >> Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2020 19:18:52 +0200<br>
> > >> > >> From: Davide Vaghetti<br>
> <<a href="mailto:davide.vaghetti@garr.it" target="_blank">davide.vaghetti@garr.it</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:davide.vaghetti@garr.it" target="_blank">davide.vaghetti@garr.it</a>><br>
> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:davide.vaghetti@garr.it" target="_blank">davide.vaghetti@garr.it</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:davide.vaghetti@garr.it" target="_blank">davide.vaghetti@garr.it</a>>><br>
> > >> <mailto:<a href="mailto:davide.vaghetti@garr.it" target="_blank">davide.vaghetti@garr.it</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:davide.vaghetti@garr.it" target="_blank">davide.vaghetti@garr.it</a>><br>
> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:davide.vaghetti@garr.it" target="_blank">davide.vaghetti@garr.it</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:davide.vaghetti@garr.it" target="_blank">davide.vaghetti@garr.it</a>>>>><br>
> > >> > >> To: <a href="mailto:fog@lists.refeds.org" target="_blank">
fog@lists.refeds.org</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:fog@lists.refeds.org" target="_blank">fog@lists.refeds.org</a>><br>
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> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:fog@lists.refeds.org" target="_blank">fog@lists.refeds.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:fog@lists.refeds.org" target="_blank">fog@lists.refeds.org</a>>>><br>
> > >> > >><br>
> > >> > >> Hello everyone,<br>
> > >> > >><br>
> > >> > >> some IdP admins and Librarians alerted us<br>
> about<br>
> > >> Clarivate's InCites<br>
> > >> > >> requiring an additional users registration<br>
> after the<br>
> > >> Institutional<br>
> > >> > >> login. The flow is similar to what Elsevier<br>
> > >> introduced in sciencedirect,<br>
> > >> > >> but then rolled back, last year:<br>
> > >> > >><br>
> > >> > >> - it starts on<br>
> > >> <br>
> > <br>
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> > >> > >> - a user select "Sign in" and then<br>
> "Institutional<br>
> > >> (Shibboleth) Sign In"<br>
> > >> > >> - once the authN flow is finished, the user is<br>
> > >> requested to register an<br>
> > >> > >> email address and then to set a password<br>
> to access<br>
> > >> InCites<br>
> > >> > >><br>
> > >> > >> As in the case of Elsevier, the above has<br>
> not been<br>
> > >> anticipated in any<br>
> > >> > >> way from Clarivate, which so far was letting<br>
> > users in<br>
> > >> with just a<br>
> > >> > >> transient nameid and ePSA.<br>
> > >> > >><br>
> > >> > >> Regards,<br>
> > >> > >> Davide<br>
> > >> > >> --<br>
> > >> > >> Davide Vaghetti<br>
> > >> > >> Consortium GARR<br>
> > >> > >> Tel: +390502213158<br>
> > >> > >> Mobile: +393357779542<br>
> > >> > >> Skype: daserzw<br>
> > >> > >><br>
> _______________________________________________<br>
> > >> > >> FIM4L mailing list<br>
> > >> > >> <a href="mailto:FIM4L@lists.daasi.de" target="_blank">
FIM4L@lists.daasi.de</a><br>
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> > >> > >><br>
> > >> <br>
> > <br>
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> > >> > <br>
> > >> > --<br>
> > >> > Davide Vaghetti<br>
> > >> > Consortium GARR<br>
> > >> > Tel: +390502213158<br>
> > >> > Mobile: +393357779542<br>
> > >> > Skype: daserzw<br>
> > >> > _______________________________________________<br>
> > >> > FIM4L mailing list<br>
> > >> > <a href="mailto:FIM4L@lists.daasi.de" target="_blank">FIM4L@lists.daasi.de</a><br>
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> > >> > <br>
> > >> <br>
> > <br>
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> > >> ><br>
> > >> > _______________________________________________<br>
> > >> > FIM4L mailing list<br>
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> > >><br>
> > >> --<br>
> > >><br>
> > >> Peter Gietz, CEO<br>
> > >><br>
> > >> DAASI International GmbH <br>
> > >> Europaplatz 3 <br>
> > >> D-72072 Tübingen <br>
> > >> Germany <br>
> > >><br>
> > >> phone: +49 7071 407109-0<br>
> > >> fax: +49 7071 407109-9 <br>
> > >> email: <a href="mailto:peter.gietz@daasi.de" target="_blank">
peter.gietz@daasi.de</a><br>
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> > >> Sitz der Gesellschaft: Tübingen<br>
> > >> Registergericht: Amtsgericht Stuttgart, HRB 382175<br>
> > >> Geschäftsleitung: Peter Gietz<br>
> > >><br>
> > >> _______________________________________________<br>
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> > > --<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Peter Gietz, CEO<br>
> > ><br>
> > > DAASI International GmbH <br>
> > > Europaplatz 3 <br>
> > > D-72072 Tübingen <br>
> > > Germany <br>
> > ><br>
> > > phone: +49 7071 407109-0<br>
> > > fax: +49 7071 407109-9 <br>
> > > email: <a href="mailto:peter.gietz@daasi.de" target="_blank">peter.gietz@daasi.de</a><br>
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