<div dir="ltr">Hi Jos,<div><br></div><div>the first bullet is about identity, the second bullet about identifier.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for checking, cheers</div><div><br></div><div>                       Jiri</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 11:36 AM Jos Westerbeke <<a href="mailto:jos.westerbeke@eur.nl">jos.westerbeke@eur.nl</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">




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Hi Jiri, Davide,</div>
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I have the suggestion to change "institutional identity" to "institutional pseudonymous identifier as described in principle 4.B [1]"</div>
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See comment in document.</div>
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Best,</div>
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<div id="gmail-m_-3134897631108324465divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size:11pt" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> FIM4L <<a href="mailto:fim4l-bounces@lists.daasi.de" target="_blank">fim4l-bounces@lists.daasi.de</a>> on behalf of Jiri Pavlik <<a href="mailto:jiri.pavlik@techlib.cz" target="_blank">jiri.pavlik@techlib.cz</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> 09 November 2020 12:42<br>
<b>To:</b> Davide Vaghetti <<a href="mailto:davide.vaghetti@garr.it" target="_blank">davide.vaghetti@garr.it</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:fim4l@lists.daasi.de" target="_blank">fim4l@lists.daasi.de</a> <<a href="mailto:fim4l@lists.daasi.de" target="_blank">fim4l@lists.daasi.de</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fim4l] Fwd: InCites now requires users to supply email address and create a new set of credentials</font>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi Davide,
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<div dir="ltr">On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 12:27 PM Davide Vaghetti <<a href="mailto:davide.vaghetti@garr.it" target="_blank">davide.vaghetti@garr.it</a>> wrote:<br>
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On 09/11/20 12:07, Jiri Pavlik wrote:<br>
> Hi Davide,<br>
> <br>
> great, I slightly edited the text to change the original GARR<br>
> perspective to FIM4L one.<br>
<br>
Thanks!<br>
<br>
> <br>
> I'd suggest to address the letter to following Clarivate representatives:<br>
> <a href="mailto:josef.jilek@clarivate.com" target="_blank">josef.jilek@clarivate.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:josef.jilek@clarivate.com" target="_blank">josef.jilek@clarivate.com</a>><br>
> <a href="mailto:eniko.szasz@clarivate.com" target="_blank">eniko.szasz@clarivate.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:eniko.szasz@clarivate.com" target="_blank">eniko.szasz@clarivate.com</a>><br>
> <a href="mailto:heidi.muller@clarivate.com" target="_blank">heidi.muller@clarivate.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:heidi.muller@clarivate.com" target="_blank">heidi.muller@clarivate.com</a>><br>
<br>
It works for me. I suggest to give some time for the people in the list<br>
to comment on the letter and then I'd sent it by noon Tomorrow if that's<br>
ok for you.<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
Davide<br>
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> <br>
> <br>
> Cheers<br>
> <br>
>                Jiri<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 11:31 AM Davide Vaghetti <<a href="mailto:davide.vaghetti@garr.it" target="_blank">davide.vaghetti@garr.it</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:davide.vaghetti@garr.it" target="_blank">davide.vaghetti@garr.it</a>>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
>     Hello Jiri,<br>
> <br>
>     On 09/11/20 10:16, Jiri Pavlik wrote:<br>
>     > Hi Davide,<br>
>     ><br>
>     > I think we can prepare the cover letter at the Google Drive<br>
>     document [1] <br>
>     > and once the letter is sent to Clarivate representatives put a copy to<br>
>     > FIM4L <br>
>     > documents [2]. Sounds good?<br>
>     ><br>
> <br>
>     Sure! I've gave it a go with the text I've already prepared a few weeks<br>
>     ago. I think it does some refining, but it should work as a start.<br>
> <br>
>     Cheers,<br>
>     Davide<br>
> <br>
>     > Cheers<br>
>     ><br>
>     >             Jiri<br>
>     ><br>
>     ><br>
>     ><br>
>     ><br>
>     1. <a href="https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fdocument%2Fd%2F1W1ZhKdJXkBiOvhKcm1PDvcUaPVrbFlKJmKU1_WgKno8%2Fedit%3Fusp%3Dsharing&data=04%7C01%7Cjos.westerbeke%40eur.nl%7Cd977cb3a2d1844132d2b08d88550e2ff%7C715902d6f63e4b8d929b4bb170bad492%7C0%7C0%7C637405929745566751%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=B3zTLBVUkzm28Gt7UNjdqMqRxhIBELHUcb03OZE8ACw%3D&reserved=0" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1W1ZhKdJXkBiOvhKcm1PDvcUaPVrbFlKJmKU1_WgKno8/edit?usp=sharing</a><br>
>     > 2. <a href="https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.fim4l.org%2F%3Fpage_id%3D269&data=04%7C01%7Cjos.westerbeke%40eur.nl%7Cd977cb3a2d1844132d2b08d88550e2ff%7C715902d6f63e4b8d929b4bb170bad492%7C0%7C0%7C637405929745576747%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=4tK%2FQE%2BkVSt%2BqnTj2UNEFsDMvSRQX5lwt22rsZ%2BIYhs%3D&reserved=0" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.fim4l.org/?page_id=269</a><br>
>     ><br>
>     > On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 10:02 AM Davide Vaghetti<br>
>     <<a href="mailto:davide.vaghetti@garr.it" target="_blank">davide.vaghetti@garr.it</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:davide.vaghetti@garr.it" target="_blank">davide.vaghetti@garr.it</a>><br>
>     > <mailto:<a href="mailto:davide.vaghetti@garr.it" target="_blank">davide.vaghetti@garr.it</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:davide.vaghetti@garr.it" target="_blank">davide.vaghetti@garr.it</a>>>><br>
>     wrote:<br>
>     ><br>
>     >     Hello Jiri,<br>
>     ><br>
>     >     thanks for this! I totally agree with the recommendations and<br>
>     I'll be<br>
>     >     happy to help writing a cover letter if needed.<br>
>     ><br>
>     >     I also have a side proposal/request on top of it. IMO it would<br>
>     be great<br>
>     >     if the letter sent to Clarivate could be published on the<br>
>     fim4l website,<br>
>     >     so I, as others, could openly refer to it for further<br>
>     communications<br>
>     >     with Clarivate.<br>
>     ><br>
>     >     What do you think?<br>
>     ><br>
>     >     Cheers,<br>
>     >     Davide<br>
>     ><br>
>     >     On 09/11/20 09:38, Jiri Pavlik wrote:<br>
>     >     > Dear all,<br>
>     >     ><br>
>     >     > I believe that everyone is happy about our recommendations for<br>
>     >     Clarivate<br>
>     >     > regarding federated authentication at InCites -<br>
>     >     >  <br>
>     >     ><br>
>     >   <br>
>       <a href="https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fdocument%2Fd%2F1W1ZhKdJXkBiOvhKcm1PDvcUaPVrbFlKJmKU1_WgKno8%2Fedit&data=04%7C01%7Cjos.westerbeke%40eur.nl%7Cd977cb3a2d1844132d2b08d88550e2ff%7C715902d6f63e4b8d929b4bb170bad492%7C0%7C0%7C637405929745576747%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=ih97lyMKCMhCKGS13FvUJyPofessAMj70%2FoE8afh5lM%3D&reserved=0" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1W1ZhKdJXkBiOvhKcm1PDvcUaPVrbFlKJmKU1_WgKno8/edit</a><br>
>     >     ><br>
>     >     > I am going to reach out Clarivate representatives within few<br>
>     days<br>
>     >     with Cc <br>
>     >     > to FIM4L list as we agreed on FIM4L WG call last week.<br>
>     >     ><br>
>     >     > Kind regards<br>
>     >     ><br>
>     >     >            Jiri<br>
>     >     >  <br>
>     >     ><br>
>     >     > On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 7:27 PM Peter Gietz<br>
>     <<a href="mailto:peter.gietz@daasi.de" target="_blank">peter.gietz@daasi.de</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:peter.gietz@daasi.de" target="_blank">peter.gietz@daasi.de</a>><br>
>     >     <mailto:<a href="mailto:peter.gietz@daasi.de" target="_blank">peter.gietz@daasi.de</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:peter.gietz@daasi.de" target="_blank">peter.gietz@daasi.de</a>>><br>
>     >     > <mailto:<a href="mailto:peter.gietz@daasi.de" target="_blank">peter.gietz@daasi.de</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:peter.gietz@daasi.de" target="_blank">peter.gietz@daasi.de</a>><br>
>     <mailto:<a href="mailto:peter.gietz@daasi.de" target="_blank">peter.gietz@daasi.de</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:peter.gietz@daasi.de" target="_blank">peter.gietz@daasi.de</a>>>>> wrote:<br>
>     >     ><br>
>     >     >     Hi Jiri,<br>
>     >     ><br>
>     >     >     Thanks for the update.<br>
>     >     ><br>
>     >     >     Cheers,<br>
>     >     ><br>
>     >     >     Peter<br>
>     >     ><br>
>     >     >     Am 20.10.20 um 10:27 schrieb Jiri Pavlik:<br>
>     >     >>     Hi Peter,<br>
>     >     >><br>
>     >     >>     we discussed what we can do on a call with Davide and Peter<br>
>     >     >>     Schober and<br>
>     >     >>     agreed that FIM4L should approach Clarivate regarding bad<br>
>     >     >>     federated authentication<br>
>     >     >>     implementation. There is a draft what FIM4L could<br>
>     suggest to<br>
>     >     >>     Clarivate:<br>
>     >     >><br>
>     >     >>   <br>
>     >   <br>
>       <a href="https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fdocument%2Fd%2F1W1ZhKdJXkBiOvhKcm1PDvcUaPVrbFlKJmKU1_WgKno8%2Fedit%3Fusp%3Dsharing&data=04%7C01%7Cjos.westerbeke%40eur.nl%7Cd977cb3a2d1844132d2b08d88550e2ff%7C715902d6f63e4b8d929b4bb170bad492%7C0%7C0%7C637405929745586740%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=rHGN58uIFdVT6qGfAYTECb8RDhOKJW0aGV1SFMrCViE%3D&reserved=0" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1W1ZhKdJXkBiOvhKcm1PDvcUaPVrbFlKJmKU1_WgKno8/edit?usp=sharing</a><br>
>     >     >><br>
>     >     >>     All the best<br>
>     >     >><br>
>     >     >>                    Jiri<br>
>     >     >><br>
>     >     >><br>
>     >     >><br>
>     >     >>     On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 7:08 PM Peter Gietz<br>
>     >     <<a href="mailto:peter.gietz@daasi.de" target="_blank">peter.gietz@daasi.de</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:peter.gietz@daasi.de" target="_blank">peter.gietz@daasi.de</a>><br>
>     <mailto:<a href="mailto:peter.gietz@daasi.de" target="_blank">peter.gietz@daasi.de</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:peter.gietz@daasi.de" target="_blank">peter.gietz@daasi.de</a>>><br>
>     >     >>     <mailto:<a href="mailto:peter.gietz@daasi.de" target="_blank">peter.gietz@daasi.de</a><br>
>     <mailto:<a href="mailto:peter.gietz@daasi.de" target="_blank">peter.gietz@daasi.de</a>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:peter.gietz@daasi.de" target="_blank">peter.gietz@daasi.de</a><br>
>     <mailto:<a href="mailto:peter.gietz@daasi.de" target="_blank">peter.gietz@daasi.de</a>>>>><br>
>     >     wrote:<br>
>     >     >><br>
>     >     >>         Hi all,<br>
>     >     >><br>
>     >     >>         welcome here Davide, your presence here is much<br>
>     appreciated.<br>
>     >     >><br>
>     >     >>         Yes it is obvious that more and more publishers see a<br>
>     >     value in<br>
>     >     >>         collecting data ...<br>
>     >     >><br>
>     >     >>         May be we should think about a page on our website<br>
>     with a<br>
>     >     list of<br>
>     >     >>         "Publishers that are conformant with the FIM4L<br>
>     >     >>         recommendations". This<br>
>     >     >>         could be an insentive for publishers to not go the<br>
>     way we<br>
>     >     >>         observed here.<br>
>     >     >>         Just an idea....<br>
>     >     >><br>
>     >     >>         What else could we do to convince publishers to be<br>
>     >     conformant?<br>
>     >     >><br>
>     >     >>         Cheers,<br>
>     >     >><br>
>     >     >>         Peter<br>
>     >     >><br>
>     >     >>         Am 12.10.2020 um 09:22 schrieb Jos Westerbeke:<br>
>     >     >>         > Hello Davide,<br>
>     >     >>         ><br>
>     >     >>         > Thanks for joining and for your email.<br>
>     >     >>         ><br>
>     >     >>         > Things are coming together at a perfect timing I<br>
>     guess.<br>
>     >     >>         We're almost ready to publish the final version of<br>
>     FIM4L<br>
>     >     >>         Principles & Recommendations.<br>
>     >     >>         ><br>
>     >     >>         > The idea is that libraries worldwide can refer to<br>
>     a common<br>
>     >     >>         accepted document which describes how we<br>
>     (libraries) want to<br>
>     >     >>         establish federated SSO connections with publishers.<br>
>     >     >>         ><br>
>     >     >>         > Since a few weeks we have a new website where you<br>
>     can find<br>
>     >     >>         this document: <a href="https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.fim4l.org%2F%3Fpage_id%3D257&data=04%7C01%7Cjos.westerbeke%40eur.nl%7Cd977cb3a2d1844132d2b08d88550e2ff%7C715902d6f63e4b8d929b4bb170bad492%7C0%7C0%7C637405929745586740%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=%2F0yA%2FoBSzpEGuapPk1sMItCjHbCJ3HabUwQPvUOl718%3D&reserved=0" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">
https://www.fim4l.org/?page_id=257</a><br>
>     >     >>         ><br>
>     >     >>         > But be patient: I'll send an announcement to this<br>
>     list,<br>
>     >     >>         probably by the end of this week, with a new<br>
>     graphical update<br>
>     >     >>         of the FIM4L Principles & Recommendations.<br>
>     >     >>         ><br>
>     >     >>         > When all things ready, the official published<br>
>     document will<br>
>     >     >>         be backed by Europe LIBER libraries (400+) and may<br>
>     be of<br>
>     >     great<br>
>     >     >>         value for you to refer too by speaking with publishers.<br>
>     >     >>         ><br>
>     >     >>         > All the best!<br>
>     >     >>         > Jos<br>
>     >     >>         ><br>
>     >     >>         > Jos Westerbeke<br>
>     >     >>         > Library IT Specialist / Demandmanager  | Erasmus<br>
>     University<br>
>     >     >>         Rotterdam | Burgemeester Oudlaan 50, Library | 3062PA<br>
>     >     >>         Rotterdam | <a href="mailto:jos.westerbeke@eur.nl" target="_blank">
jos.westerbeke@eur.nl</a><br>
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>     >     >>         > Op 09-10-20 16:43 heeft FIM4L namens Davide Vaghetti<br>
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>     <mailto:<a href="mailto:fim4l-bounces@lists.daasi.de" target="_blank">fim4l-bounces@lists.daasi.de</a>>>> namens<br>
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>     <mailto:<a href="mailto:davide.vaghetti@garr.it" target="_blank">davide.vaghetti@garr.it</a>>>>><br>
>     >     >>         geschreven:<br>
>     >     >>         ><br>
>     >     >>         >     Hello Heather,<br>
>     >     >>         >     <br>
>     >     >>         >     On 09/10/20 15:54, Heather Flanagan wrote:<br>
>     >     >>         >     > Hello and welcome, Davide!<br>
>     >     >>         >     ><br>
>     >     >>         >     > I’m not sure if you’re asking a question<br>
>     about what<br>
>     >     >>         Clarivate is doing,<br>
>     >     >>         >     > if you’re asking if anyone has knowledge of<br>
>     other<br>
>     >     >>         similar patterns, or<br>
>     >     >>         >     > if this is just an FYI?<br>
>     >     >>         >     ><br>
>     >     >>         >     <br>
>     >     >>         >     Yes, good point. Well, the thing is that<br>
>     Clarivate's<br>
>     >     >>         behavior is the<br>
>     >     >>         >     exact opposite of the FIM4L recommendations,<br>
>     so I'd<br>
>     >     like<br>
>     >     >>         the advice of<br>
>     >     >>         >     this community in how to deal with this<br>
>     Publisher and<br>
>     >     >>         possibly doing it<br>
>     >     >>         >     not alone.<br>
>     >     >>         >     <br>
>     >     >>         >     As Peter was pointing out, Clarivate's additional<br>
>     >     >>         registration flow is<br>
>     >     >>         >     breaking federated access and probably some<br>
>     contracts<br>
>     >     >>         and privacy law as<br>
>     >     >>         >     well, but I'd prefer to restrain from the<br>
>     legalities at<br>
>     >     >>         least until it<br>
>     >     >>         >     strictly necessary. Not to count that IDEM,<br>
>     as other<br>
>     >     >>         identity<br>
>     >     >>         >     federations, are not direct parties in this<br>
>     type of<br>
>     >     >>         contracts.<br>
>     >     >>         >     <br>
>     >     >>         >     Cheers,<br>
>     >     >>         >     Davide<br>
>     >     >>         >     <br>
>     >     >>         >     > Heather Flanagan — Translator of Geek to Human<br>
>     >     >>         >     ><br>
>     >     >>       <br>
>     >   <br>
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>     >     >>         >     > On Oct 9, 2020, 2:45 AM -0700, Davide Vaghetti<br>
>     >     >>         >     > <<a href="mailto:davide.vaghetti@garr.it" target="_blank">davide.vaghetti@garr.it</a><br>
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>     <mailto:<a href="mailto:davide.vaghetti@garr.it" target="_blank">davide.vaghetti@garr.it</a>>>>>, wrote:<br>
>     >     >>         >     >> Hello everyone,<br>
>     >     >>         >     >><br>
>     >     >>         >     >> I've sent this message to the FOG mailing<br>
>     list about<br>
>     >     >>         Clarivate's InCites<br>
>     >     >>         >     >> additional registration flow, but some<br>
>     Colleagues<br>
>     >     >>         suggested that FIM4L<br>
>     >     >>         >     >> would have been a better venue for the topic.<br>
>     >     >>         >     >><br>
>     >     >>         >     >> Regards,<br>
>     >     >>         >     >> Davide<br>
>     >     >>         >     >><br>
>     >     >>         >     >> -------- Forwarded Message --------<br>
>     >     >>         >     >> Subject: InCites now requires users to<br>
>     supply email<br>
>     >     >>         address and create a<br>
>     >     >>         >     >> new set of credentials<br>
>     >     >>         >     >> Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2020 19:18:52 +0200<br>
>     >     >>         >     >> From: Davide Vaghetti<br>
>     <<a href="mailto:davide.vaghetti@garr.it" target="_blank">davide.vaghetti@garr.it</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:davide.vaghetti@garr.it" target="_blank">davide.vaghetti@garr.it</a>><br>
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>     >     >>         >     >> To: <a href="mailto:fog@lists.refeds.org" target="_blank">
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>     >     >>         >     >><br>
>     >     >>         >     >> Hello everyone,<br>
>     >     >>         >     >><br>
>     >     >>         >     >> some IdP admins and Librarians alerted us<br>
>     about<br>
>     >     >>         Clarivate's InCites<br>
>     >     >>         >     >> requiring an additional users registration<br>
>     after the<br>
>     >     >>         Institutional<br>
>     >     >>         >     >> login. The flow is similar to what Elsevier<br>
>     >     >>         introduced in sciencedirect,<br>
>     >     >>         >     >> but then rolled back, last year:<br>
>     >     >>         >     >><br>
>     >     >>         >     >> - it starts on<br>
>     >     >>       <br>
>     >   <br>
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>     >     >>         >     >> - a user select "Sign in" and then<br>
>     "Institutional<br>
>     >     >>         (Shibboleth) Sign In"<br>
>     >     >>         >     >> - once the authN flow is finished, the user is<br>
>     >     >>         requested to register an<br>
>     >     >>         >     >> email address and then to set a password<br>
>     to access<br>
>     >     >>         InCites<br>
>     >     >>         >     >><br>
>     >     >>         >     >> As in the case of Elsevier, the above has<br>
>     not been<br>
>     >     >>         anticipated in any<br>
>     >     >>         >     >> way from Clarivate, which so far was letting<br>
>     >     users in<br>
>     >     >>         with just a<br>
>     >     >>         >     >> transient nameid and ePSA.<br>
>     >     >>         >     >><br>
>     >     >>         >     >> Regards,<br>
>     >     >>         >     >> Davide<br>
>     >     >>         >     >> --<br>
>     >     >>         >     >> Davide Vaghetti<br>
>     >     >>         >     >> Consortium GARR<br>
>     >     >>         >     >> Tel: +390502213158<br>
>     >     >>         >     >> Mobile: +393357779542<br>
>     >     >>         >     >> Skype: daserzw<br>
>     >     >>         >     >><br>
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