Dear all,
Thank you all for your time and input yesterday in our first meeting!
We had a good conversation. One of the points I picked up, is that it would be necessary to have an easy to read document which lays out the problem we are working on. So, I tried to translate it into a first draft of what I called "Problem Statement".
Feel free to correct it and/or put comments on it. I put it into the same document: (We can pull it out it later.)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/17EllwItlnB3fYhJ2ZNpX6Z1gUfF1948ORRvtbIA…
Jiri will send you a new doodle meeting proposal.
Thank you all and have a good weekend!
kind regards,
Jos
From: Jos Westerbeke <jos.westerbeke(a)eur.nl>
Date: Wednesday, 23 January 2019 at 14:20
To: "Boheemen, Peter van" <peter.vanboheemen(a)wur.nl>, Sander Engelberts <sander.engelberts(a)oclc.org>, Licia Florio <licia.florio(a)geant.org>, Peter <peter.gietz(a)daasi.de>, Leif Johansson <leifj(a)sunet.se>, Vasso Kalaitzi <Vasso.Kalaitzi(a)kb.nl>, Barbara Monticini <barbara.monticini(a)garr.it>, Bernd Oberknapp <bo(a)ub.uni-freiburg.de>, Jiri Pavlik <jiri.pavlik(a)mzk.cz>, Raoul Teeuwen <raoul.teeuwen(a)surfnet.nl>, Astrid Verheusen <A.Verheusen(a)kb.nl>
Subject: FIM4L meeting Thursday Jan 24 2019
Dear participant of the FIM4L workgroup, and those who are interested,
Welcome to our meeting:
Thursday January 24th 15:00-16:00 CET at https://meet.google.com/ppq-dqwn-zgo
Agenda
* Welcome
* Introduction to the matter
* Time to discuss (see the 'proto charter' document<https://docs.google.com/document/d/17EllwItlnB3fYhJ2ZNpX6Z1gUfF1948ORRvtbIA…>)
* Next meeting
We already have an email list for this group, but for now I thought it would be good to know each other's email address.
The aim of this workgroup is to make recommendations regarding the establishments of SSO connections and a reference for publishers. Libraries want to provide access to scholarly content based on anonymity. We can make the right connections based on federated SSO if both parties, libraries and publishers, understand the problem. Especially regarding privacy.
We are very happy that there's a lot interest already in this bottom up starting workgroup! Together we can make the libraries voice clear.
And I am very pleased to invite you to this meeting.
With kind regards,
Jos
Jos Westerbeke
Library IT Specialist / Demandmanager | Erasmus University Rotterdam, Library | Burgemeester Oudlaan 50 | 3062PA Rotterdam | jos.westerbeke(a)eur.nl<mailto:jos.westerbeke@eur.nl> | +31 640295513
Hi Jos, Hi JIri, hi all
just to let you know at the round table there was quite a lot of
criticism of RA21 and thus on the implementation of SAML for scholarly
publications which should be Open Access any way. A lot of people saw a
political agenda of publishers behind RA21. SAML authentication, even if
IdP sends no personal data to SP allows for user behaviour tracking and
that might be the publishers interest to allow for things like "scholars
who read this article also read that article". They would only need
targetedID for that. I don't want to decide, whether such is a good
thing or a bad thing, we should just be aware of it and may be put some
languge about this in the proto-charter.
Thanks and cheers,
Peter
Am 23.01.2019 um 09:16 schrieb Jos Westerbeke:
>
> Hi Peter,
>
> thank you and have a nice trip! We will do our best to make a good
> start with FIM4L.
>
> @Jiri:
>
> Are you fine with me welcoming and introducing the meeting tomorrow?
> We can discuss afterwards all together.
>
> Then, I'll send an agenda to the participants:
>
> - Welcome
>
> - Introduction to the matter
>
> - Time to discuss (see the 'proto charter' document
> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/17EllwItlnB3fYhJ2ZNpX6Z1gUfF1948ORRvtbIA…>)
>
> - Next meeting
>
> I can introduce already three new members. Two university librarians!
> (NL, DE) And one from our national federation SURFconext. And more to
> be expected!
>
> Jos
>
> *From: *Jiri Pavlik <jiri.pavlik(a)mzk.cz>
> *Date: *Wednesday, 23 January 2019 at 08:08
> *To: *Peter <peter.gietz(a)daasi.de>
> *Cc: *Boris Günthner <boris.guenthner(a)daasi.de>, Jos Westerbeke
> <jos.westerbeke(a)eur.nl>
> *Subject: *Re: WG: FIM4L
>
> Hi Peter,
>
> thanks a lot, have a nice trip!
>
> Jiri
>
> On Tue, 22 Jan 2019 at 20:48, Peter <peter.gietz(a)daasi.de
> <mailto:peter.gietz@daasi.de>> wrote:
>
> Hi Jiri, hi Jos,
>
> this was the invitation to participation, which was sent by the
> organizer of the round table.
>
> Boris (Cc) maintains the fim4l list. Please indicate to him, whom
> to include into that list after you recieved responses.
>
> I will be off-line the major part of the next three weeks.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Peter
>
>
>
> -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --------
>
> *Betreff: *
>
>
>
> WG: FIM4L
>
> *Datum: *
>
>
>
> Tue, 22 Jan 2019 09:15:54 +0000
>
> *Von: *
>
>
>
> Göttker, Susanne <Susanne.Goettker(a)ulb.hhu.de>
> <mailto:Susanne.Goettker@ulb.hhu.de>
>
> *An: *
>
>
>
> 'roland.bertelmann(a)gfz-potsdam.de
> <mailto:roland.bertelmann@gfz-potsdam.de>'
> <roland.bertelmann(a)gfz-potsdam.de>
> <mailto:roland.bertelmann@gfz-potsdam.de>, geschuhn(a)mpdl.mpg.de
> <mailto:geschuhn@mpdl.mpg.de> <geschuhn(a)mpdl.mpg.de>
> <mailto:geschuhn@mpdl.mpg.de>,
> 'hillenkoetter(a)sub.uni-goettingen.de
> <mailto:hillenkoetter@sub.uni-goettingen.de>'
> <hillenkoetter(a)sub.uni-goettingen.de>
> <mailto:hillenkoetter@sub.uni-goettingen.de>, angela.holzer(a)dfg.de
> <mailto:angela.holzer@dfg.de> <angela.holzer(a)dfg.de>
> <mailto:angela.holzer@dfg.de>, Annette Klein
> (annette.klein(a)bib.uni-mannheim.de
> <mailto:annette.klein@bib.uni-mannheim.de>)
> <annette.klein(a)bib.uni-mannheim.de>
> <mailto:annette.klein@bib.uni-mannheim.de>,
> 'kostaedt(a)ub.uni-koeln.de <mailto:kostaedt@ub.uni-koeln.de>'
> <kostaedt(a)ub.uni-koeln.de> <mailto:kostaedt@ub.uni-koeln.de>,
> j.lazarus(a)zbw.eu <mailto:j.lazarus@zbw.eu> <j.lazarus(a)zbw.eu>
> <mailto:j.lazarus@zbw.eu>, b.mittermaier(a)fz-juelich.de
> <mailto:b.mittermaier@fz-juelich.de> <b.mittermaier(a)fz-juelich.de>
> <mailto:b.mittermaier@fz-juelich.de>, Nußbaumer, Martin (SCC)
> (martin.nussbaumer(a)kit.edu <mailto:martin.nussbaumer@kit.edu>)
> <martin.nussbaumer(a)kit.edu> <mailto:martin.nussbaumer@kit.edu>,
> 'bernd.oberknapp(a)ub.uni-freiburg.de
> <mailto:bernd.oberknapp@ub.uni-freiburg.de>'
> <bernd.oberknapp(a)ub.uni-freiburg.de>
> <mailto:bernd.oberknapp@ub.uni-freiburg.de>, 'pempe(a)dfn.de
> <mailto:pempe@dfn.de>' <pempe(a)dfn.de> <mailto:pempe@dfn.de>,
> 'hildegard.schaeffler(a)bsb-muenchen.de
> <mailto:hildegard.schaeffler@bsb-muenchen.de>'
> <hildegard.schaeffler(a)bsb-muenchen.de>
> <mailto:hildegard.schaeffler@bsb-muenchen.de>,
> frank.scholze(a)kit.edu <mailto:frank.scholze@kit.edu>
> <frank.scholze(a)kit.edu> <mailto:frank.scholze@kit.edu>, 'Michaela
> Selbach' <selbach(a)hbz-nrw.de> <mailto:selbach@hbz-nrw.de>,
> 'alexander.poeche(a)tib.eu <mailto:alexander.poeche@tib.eu>'
> <alexander.poeche(a)tib.eu> <mailto:alexander.poeche@tib.eu>,
> 'helge.steenweg(a)ub.uni-stuttgart.de
> <mailto:helge.steenweg@ub.uni-stuttgart.de>'
> <helge.steenweg(a)ub.uni-stuttgart.de>
> <mailto:helge.steenweg@ub.uni-stuttgart.de>,
> andreas.steinsieck(a)gwlb.de <mailto:andreas.steinsieck@gwlb.de>
> <andreas.steinsieck(a)gwlb.de> <mailto:andreas.steinsieck@gwlb.de>,
> armin.talke(a)sbb.spk-berlin.de
> <mailto:armin.talke@sbb.spk-berlin.de>
> <armin.talke(a)sbb.spk-berlin.de>
> <mailto:armin.talke@sbb.spk-berlin.de>,
> 'marion.francken-welz(a)bib.uni-mannheim.de
> <mailto:marion.francken-welz@bib.uni-mannheim.de>'
> <marion.francken-welz(a)bib.uni-mannheim.de>
> <mailto:marion.francken-welz@bib.uni-mannheim.de>,
> 'Karl-Heinz.Weber(a)fiz-karlsruhe.de
> <mailto:Karl-Heinz.Weber@fiz-karlsruhe.de>'
> <Karl-Heinz.Weber(a)fiz-karlsruhe.de>
> <mailto:Karl-Heinz.Weber@fiz-karlsruhe.de>
>
> *Kopie (CC): *
>
>
>
> 'jiri.pavlik(a)mzk.cz <mailto:jiri.pavlik@mzk.cz>'
> <jiri.pavlik(a)mzk.cz> <mailto:jiri.pavlik@mzk.cz>,
> 'jos.westerbeke(a)eur.nl <mailto:jos.westerbeke@eur.nl>'
> <jos.westerbeke(a)eur.nl> <mailto:jos.westerbeke@eur.nl>,
> 'peter.gietz(a)daasi.de <mailto:peter.gietz@daasi.de>'
> <peter.gietz(a)daasi.de> <mailto:peter.gietz@daasi.de>
>
>
>
> Sehr geehrte Teilnehmerinnen und Teilnehmer am Rundgespräch zu
> RA21 in der vergangenen Woche,
> liebe Kolleginnen und Kollegen,
>
> während unseres Treffens berichtete Peter Gietz von FIM4L -
> Federated Identity Management for Libraries.
> Bei der Frage, ob Sie an weiteren Informationen zu FIM4L
> interessiert sind, hatten Sie sich mehrheitlich gemeldet, weswegen
> ich Ihnen hiermit das Anschreiben von Herrn Gietz (s.u.) weiterleite.
>
> Mit freundlichen Grüßen
> Susanne Göttker
>
>
>
> Dear participants of the round table discussion on RA21 in Berlin,
>
> As was mentioned in named meeting, a new group called FIM4L is about to
>
> forming itself that wants to promote the usage of SSO technologies as used by
>
> eduGAIN within the library communities.
>
> We are currently forming the group as a mailing list and are working on a text
>
> we call proto-charter (see[1]).
>
> As the round table was dedicated to exactly the same subject, I thought some of
>
> you might be interested to join this group in its early stage.
>
> At one point of time we will also have an announce mailing list, if you only want
>
> to be updated on the work but not actively be involved.
>
> A first meeting under the name of FIM4L is planned to take place on January
>
> 24th, which I will unfortunately miss because of a longer vacation:
>
> The call will be held on Thursday January 24th 15:00-16:00 CET athttps://meet.google.com/ppq-dqwn-zgo
>
> So please indicate to Jos, Jiri and me,
>
> * if you are willing to become active member
>
> * if you will be able to join the virtual meeting on Thursday
>
> * if you want to be kept updated about the working progress
>
> It was wonderful for me to meet you all in Berlin and I hope to see some of you
>
> again also in the frame of FIM4L.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Peter
>
> [1]
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/17EllwItlnB3fYhJ2ZNpX6Z1gUfF1948ORRvtbIA…
>
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