World is not covered with NREN's and good AAI
Hi all,
Today we (Raoul, Peter G. and me) had a call with EIFL (https://eifl.net/page/about ) representatives initiated by Romy Beard (cc) and several others from countries including Georgia. Several countries in eastern Europe and Africa are seeking to implement federated authentication & authorization infrastructure. This is a rather struggling task to build up NREN's like we are familiar with.
They would have like to hear the 'library voice' about this and that's why they found FIM4L. But they need some help or guidance to build the backbone of AAI. Raoul and Peter G. where kind to provide some helpful information.
It just triggers me that obviously not every country has the luxury of good working NREN's.
If there's anyone out there who is happy to help, you can contact Romy. She can connect you to appropriate persons.
All the best and stay healthy, Jos
Hi Jos, all,
GEANT leads two projects with EC funding to help emerging NRENs in Eastern Europe and Africa:
* EAP Connect where GEANT participates with Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Georgia, Moldova and Ukraine - https://eapconnect.eu/about-us/ * AfricaConnect3 where GEANT participates with the 3 major regional networks in Africa - https://www.africaconnect3.net/
Best regards, Maarten
On 18 Nov 2020, at 15:14, Jos Westerbeke jos.westerbeke@eur.nl wrote:
Hi all,
Today we (Raoul, Peter G. and me) had a call with EIFL (https://eifl.net/page/about ) representatives initiated by Romy Beard (cc) and several others from countries including Georgia. Several countries in eastern Europe and Africa are seeking to implement federated authentication & authorization infrastructure. This is a rather struggling task to build up NREN's like we are familiar with.
They would have like to hear the 'library voice' about this and that's why they found FIM4L. But they need some help or guidance to build the backbone of AAI. Raoul and Peter G. where kind to provide some helpful information.
It just triggers me that obviously not every country has the luxury of good working NREN's.
If there's anyone out there who is happy to help, you can contact Romy. She can connect you to appropriate persons.
All the best and stay healthy, Jos _______________________________________________ FIM4L mailing list FIM4L@lists.daasi.de http://lists.daasi.de/listinfo/fim4l
Hi,
there is also OpenAthens with support from EBSCO as a commercial alternative - https://www.ebsco.com/products/ebsco-openathens
Cheers
Jiri
On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 3:22 PM Maarten Kremers maarten.kremers@surf.nl wrote:
Hi Jos, all,
GEANT leads two projects with EC funding to help emerging NRENs in Eastern Europe and Africa:
- EAP Connect where GEANT participates with Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus,
Georgia, Moldova and Ukraine - https://eapconnect.eu/about-us/
- AfricaConnect3 where GEANT participates with the 3 major regional
networks in Africa - https://www.africaconnect3.net/
Best regards, Maarten
On 18 Nov 2020, at 15:14, Jos Westerbeke jos.westerbeke@eur.nl wrote:
Hi all,
Today we (Raoul, Peter G. and me) had a call with EIFL (
https://eifl.net/page/about ) representatives initiated by Romy Beard (cc) and several others from countries including Georgia. Several countries in eastern Europe and Africa are seeking to implement federated authentication & authorization infrastructure. This is a rather struggling task to build up NREN's like we are familiar with.
They would have like to hear the 'library voice' about this and that's
why they found FIM4L. But they need some help or guidance to build the backbone of AAI. Raoul and Peter G. where kind to provide some helpful information.
It just triggers me that obviously not every country has the luxury of
good working NREN's.
If there's anyone out there who is happy to help, you can contact Romy.
She can connect you to appropriate persons.
All the best and stay healthy, Jos _______________________________________________ FIM4L mailing list FIM4L@lists.daasi.de http://lists.daasi.de/listinfo/fim4l
FIM4L mailing list FIM4L@lists.daasi.de http://lists.daasi.de/listinfo/fim4l
Thanks, yes we are also in touch with them and waiting for a pricing proposal. Cost is always an issue when it comes to developing & transition economy countries....
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On Wed, 18 Nov 2020 at 14:30, Jiri Pavlik jiri.pavlik@techlib.cz wrote:
Hi,
there is also OpenAthens with support from EBSCO as a commercial alternative - https://www.ebsco.com/products/ebsco-openathens
Cheers
JiriOn Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 3:22 PM Maarten Kremers maarten.kremers@surf.nl wrote:
Hi Jos, all,
GEANT leads two projects with EC funding to help emerging NRENs in Eastern Europe and Africa:
- EAP Connect where GEANT participates with Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus,
Georgia, Moldova and Ukraine - https://eapconnect.eu/about-us/
- AfricaConnect3 where GEANT participates with the 3 major regional
networks in Africa - https://www.africaconnect3.net/
Best regards, Maarten
On 18 Nov 2020, at 15:14, Jos Westerbeke jos.westerbeke@eur.nl wrote:
Hi all,
Today we (Raoul, Peter G. and me) had a call with EIFL (
https://eifl.net/page/about ) representatives initiated by Romy Beard (cc) and several others from countries including Georgia. Several countries in eastern Europe and Africa are seeking to implement federated authentication & authorization infrastructure. This is a rather struggling task to build up NREN's like we are familiar with.
They would have like to hear the 'library voice' about this and that's
why they found FIM4L. But they need some help or guidance to build the backbone of AAI. Raoul and Peter G. where kind to provide some helpful information.
It just triggers me that obviously not every country has the luxury of
good working NREN's.
If there's anyone out there who is happy to help, you can contact Romy.
She can connect you to appropriate persons.
All the best and stay healthy, Jos _______________________________________________ FIM4L mailing list FIM4L@lists.daasi.de http://lists.daasi.de/listinfo/fim4l
FIM4L mailing list FIM4L@lists.daasi.de http://lists.daasi.de/listinfo/fim4l
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Dear Romy,
looking forward to learn what solution will work in Georgia.
Good luck, all the best
Jiri
On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 3:35 PM Romy Beard romy.beard@eifl.net wrote:
Thanks, yes we are also in touch with them and waiting for a pricing proposal. Cost is always an issue when it comes to developing & transition economy countries....
*Romy Beard* Licensing Programme Manager Mob: 0044 75 902 900 64 romy.beard@eifl.net | Skype: romy352 *EIFL* - Electronic Information for Libraries Sign up https://eifl.net/sign-up for the EIFL newsletter! www.eifl.net https://eifl.net | Facebook https://www.facebook.com/eIFL.net | Twitter https://twitter.com/EIFLnet | Flickr https://www.flickr.com/photos/eifl/ | YouTube https://www.youtube.com/user/eiflnet
On Wed, 18 Nov 2020 at 14:30, Jiri Pavlik jiri.pavlik@techlib.cz wrote:
Hi,
there is also OpenAthens with support from EBSCO as a commercial alternative - https://www.ebsco.com/products/ebsco-openathens
Cheers
JiriOn Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 3:22 PM Maarten Kremers maarten.kremers@surf.nl wrote:
Hi Jos, all,
GEANT leads two projects with EC funding to help emerging NRENs in Eastern Europe and Africa:
- EAP Connect where GEANT participates with Armenia, Azerbaijan,
Belarus, Georgia, Moldova and Ukraine - https://eapconnect.eu/about-us/
- AfricaConnect3 where GEANT participates with the 3 major regional
networks in Africa - https://www.africaconnect3.net/
Best regards, Maarten
On 18 Nov 2020, at 15:14, Jos Westerbeke jos.westerbeke@eur.nl
wrote:
Hi all,
Today we (Raoul, Peter G. and me) had a call with EIFL (
https://eifl.net/page/about ) representatives initiated by Romy Beard (cc) and several others from countries including Georgia. Several countries in eastern Europe and Africa are seeking to implement federated authentication & authorization infrastructure. This is a rather struggling task to build up NREN's like we are familiar with.
They would have like to hear the 'library voice' about this and that's
why they found FIM4L. But they need some help or guidance to build the backbone of AAI. Raoul and Peter G. where kind to provide some helpful information.
It just triggers me that obviously not every country has the luxury of
good working NREN's.
If there's anyone out there who is happy to help, you can contact
Romy. She can connect you to appropriate persons.
All the best and stay healthy, Jos _______________________________________________ FIM4L mailing list FIM4L@lists.daasi.de http://lists.daasi.de/listinfo/fim4l
FIM4L mailing list FIM4L@lists.daasi.de http://lists.daasi.de/listinfo/fim4l
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Dear Maarten,
Thanks - those are exactly the people that we're in touch with.
In the conversations we have been involved in (including Geant, Nrens from those countries, and representatives from the library consortia that EIFL works with) it has become clear that the two 'sides' (Nren's and library consortia/librarians) don't always speak the same 'language' and there was a lot of talking past each other (it seemed to me). One of the issues, as Irakli from the Georgian consortium (who joined the call this morning) explained is that they need help with the technical implementation (setting up a database for identity management, as well as saml configuration to allow connection with Edugain/the national Nren). It seems that the local Nrens have so far not been able to help with this. The discussions within that group are continuing, we have identified the need for training and the representative of Geant has spoken about training days early 2020 (for the Nrens). But we felt that there might also be a need for training of the librarians/IT staff to help with these issues.
Our next call with the Eap connect group is early December.
Thanks Romy
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On Wed, 18 Nov 2020 at 14:22, Maarten Kremers maarten.kremers@surf.nl wrote:
Hi Jos, all,
GEANT leads two projects with EC funding to help emerging NRENs in Eastern Europe and Africa:
- EAP Connect where GEANT participates with Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus,
Georgia, Moldova and Ukraine - https://eapconnect.eu/about-us/
- AfricaConnect3 where GEANT participates with the 3 major regional
networks in Africa - https://www.africaconnect3.net/
Best regards, Maarten
On 18 Nov 2020, at 15:14, Jos Westerbeke jos.westerbeke@eur.nl wrote:
Hi all,
Today we (Raoul, Peter G. and me) had a call with EIFL (
https://eifl.net/page/about ) representatives initiated by Romy Beard (cc) and several others from countries including Georgia. Several countries in eastern Europe and Africa are seeking to implement federated authentication & authorization infrastructure. This is a rather struggling task to build up NREN's like we are familiar with.
They would have like to hear the 'library voice' about this and that's
why they found FIM4L. But they need some help or guidance to build the backbone of AAI. Raoul and Peter G. where kind to provide some helpful information.
It just triggers me that obviously not every country has the luxury of
good working NREN's.
If there's anyone out there who is happy to help, you can contact Romy.
She can connect you to appropriate persons.
All the best and stay healthy, Jos _______________________________________________ FIM4L mailing list FIM4L@lists.daasi.de http://lists.daasi.de/listinfo/fim4l
FIM4L mailing list FIM4L@lists.daasi.de http://lists.daasi.de/listinfo/fim4l
The disconnect between libraries and IT is a known one, of course it varies at what level the two ‘find each other’. SeamlessAccess (SA) did a little research: https://seamlessaccess.org/posts/2020-06-23-surveyresults/ .
Both SA and FIM4L are trying to getting all parties involved aware of the necessity for good communication, for instance via talks at events about why federated authentication for libraries is getting traction, how to configure connections, how to ease access for users etc. So: work in progress 😉.
Btw, maybe the SA YouTube videos are of interest as well: https://seamlessaccess.org/learning-center/ .
Kindest regards,
Raoul.
From: FIM4L fim4l-bounces@lists.daasi.de On Behalf Of Romy Beard Sent: woensdag 18 november 2020 15:32 To: Maarten Kremers maarten.kremers@surf.nl Cc: fim4l@lists.daasi.de; jevgenija.sevcova@eifl.net Subject: Re: [Fim4l] World is not covered with NREN's and good AAI
Dear Maarten,
Thanks - those are exactly the people that we're in touch with.
In the conversations we have been involved in (including Geant, Nrens from those countries, and representatives from the library consortia that EIFL works with) it has become clear that the two 'sides' (Nren's and library consortia/librarians) don't always speak the same 'language' and there was a lot of talking past each other (it seemed to me). One of the issues, as Irakli from the Georgian consortium (who joined the call this morning) explained is that they need help with the technical implementation (setting up a database for identity management, as well as saml configuration to allow connection with Edugain/the national Nren). It seems that the local Nrens have so far not been able to help with this. The discussions within that group are continuing, we have identified the need for training and the representative of Geant has spoken about training days early 2020 (for the Nrens). But we felt that there might also be a need for training of the librarians/IT staff to help with these issues.
Our next call with the Eap connect group is early December.
Thanks Romy
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On Wed, 18 Nov 2020 at 14:22, Maarten Kremers <maarten.kremers@surf.nlmailto:maarten.kremers@surf.nl> wrote: Hi Jos, all,
GEANT leads two projects with EC funding to help emerging NRENs in Eastern Europe and Africa:
* EAP Connect where GEANT participates with Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Georgia, Moldova and Ukraine - https://eapconnect.eu/about-us/ * AfricaConnect3 where GEANT participates with the 3 major regional networks in Africa - https://www.africaconnect3.net/
Best regards, Maarten
On 18 Nov 2020, at 15:14, Jos Westerbeke <jos.westerbeke@eur.nlmailto:jos.westerbeke@eur.nl> wrote:
Hi all,
Today we (Raoul, Peter G. and me) had a call with EIFL (https://eifl.net/page/about ) representatives initiated by Romy Beard (cc) and several others from countries including Georgia. Several countries in eastern Europe and Africa are seeking to implement federated authentication & authorization infrastructure. This is a rather struggling task to build up NREN's like we are familiar with.
They would have like to hear the 'library voice' about this and that's why they found FIM4L. But they need some help or guidance to build the backbone of AAI. Raoul and Peter G. where kind to provide some helpful information.
It just triggers me that obviously not every country has the luxury of good working NREN's.
If there's anyone out there who is happy to help, you can contact Romy. She can connect you to appropriate persons.
All the best and stay healthy, Jos _______________________________________________ FIM4L mailing list FIM4L@lists.daasi.demailto:FIM4L@lists.daasi.de http://lists.daasi.de/listinfo/fim4l
_______________________________________________ FIM4L mailing list FIM4L@lists.daasi.demailto:FIM4L@lists.daasi.de http://lists.daasi.de/listinfo/fim4l
* Romy Beard romy.beard@eifl.net [2020-11-18 15:32]:
the two 'sides' (Nren's and library consortia/librarians) don't always speak the same 'language'
Right.
That's not unusual, of course, as that'll happen everytime we cross our increasingly specialised sectors.
One of the issues, as Irakli from the Georgian consortium (who joined the call this morning) explained is that they need help with the technical implementation (setting up a database for identity management, as well as saml configuration to allow connection with Edugain/the national Nren). It seems that the local Nrens have so far not been able to help with this.
FWIW, several years ago GÉANT established a service called "Federation as a service" that provides eligible parties (and there's the rub) with a fully functional and secure technical infrastructure to run their own federation on. (Management happens using only a web browser connecting to the provided web interface.)
While not every region/country in the world may be able to make use of that offering it does exist and works fine. With the exception of the Hardware Security Module that's a part of the GÉANT service (for secure signing of federation metadata) it's also comprised solely of Free/Libre/OpenSource software and as such could be deployed locally. (For those not able to use the central GÉANT service.) That still requires some technical knowhow, of course.
There have been other outreach activities as well, e.g. https://learn.nsrc.org/fedidm
REFEDS has also reached out to e.g. the APAN region several times over the years, cf. https://refeds.org/a/1367 or https://refeds.org/a/1877 or https://refeds.org/a/1888 (the REFEDS blog may have more).
Best, -peter
Hi all, hi Peter (s.)
may be offerings like FedaaS will not reach those developing countries.
An alternative that I see here is EduIDaaS, based on a central IdM system, managed in a decentralised way and an IdP that is able to mimik any number of virtual IdPs for each participating institutions, similar to what SWITCH is doing with theit eduID service[1].
Such an approach is IMO cheaper than managing a meshed federation.
Just my 2 cent.
Best,
Peter (G.)
[1] https://www.switch.ch/edu-id/
Am 18.11.2020 um 16:12 schrieb Peter Schober:
- Romy Beard romy.beard@eifl.net [2020-11-18 15:32]:
the two 'sides' (Nren's and library consortia/librarians) don't always speak the same 'language'
Right.
That's not unusual, of course, as that'll happen everytime we cross our increasingly specialised sectors.
One of the issues, as Irakli from the Georgian consortium (who joined the call this morning) explained is that they need help with the technical implementation (setting up a database for identity management, as well as saml configuration to allow connection with Edugain/the national Nren). It seems that the local Nrens have so far not been able to help with this.
FWIW, several years ago GÉANT established a service called "Federation as a service" that provides eligible parties (and there's the rub) with a fully functional and secure technical infrastructure to run their own federation on. (Management happens using only a web browser connecting to the provided web interface.)
While not every region/country in the world may be able to make use of that offering it does exist and works fine. With the exception of the Hardware Security Module that's a part of the GÉANT service (for secure signing of federation metadata) it's also comprised solely of Free/Libre/OpenSource software and as such could be deployed locally. (For those not able to use the central GÉANT service.) That still requires some technical knowhow, of course.
There have been other outreach activities as well, e.g. https://learn.nsrc.org/fedidm
REFEDS has also reached out to e.g. the APAN region several times over the years, cf. https://refeds.org/a/1367 or https://refeds.org/a/1877 or https://refeds.org/a/1888 (the REFEDS blog may have more).
Best, -peter _______________________________________________ FIM4L mailing list FIM4L@lists.daasi.de http://lists.daasi.de/listinfo/fim4l
Dear all,
We (EIFL) had another call with our consortia contacts in Eastern Europe as well as the respective Nrens. While the call with Jos, Raoul and Peter was very helpful for our contacts in Georgia, there were still some discussions with other countries which understood some things slightly differently ...
I was wondering if one or more of you would be able to join a call with this group? Ideally I would like to organize a set of webinars / calls, focusing on specific issues. So the first one could focus solely on the "first step" i.e. creating an identity management database that would be compliant with EduGain, going over the different ways to do this.
Are any of you able to help with this?
Thank you so much! Best wishes, Romy
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On Wed, 18 Nov 2020 at 14:14, Jos Westerbeke jos.westerbeke@eur.nl wrote:
Hi all,
Today we (Raoul, Peter G. and me) had a call with EIFL ( https://eifl.net/page/about ) representatives initiated by Romy Beard (cc) and several others from countries including Georgia. Several countries in eastern Europe and Africa are seeking to implement federated authentication & authorization infrastructure. This is a rather struggling task to build up NREN's like we are familiar with.
They would have like to hear the 'library voice' about this and that's why they found FIM4L. But they need some help or guidance to build the backbone of AAI. Raoul and Peter G. where kind to provide some helpful information.
It just triggers me that obviously not every country has the luxury of good working NREN's.
If there's anyone out there who is happy to help, you can contact Romy. She can connect you to appropriate persons.
All the best and stay healthy,
Jos
Hi Romy,
I am happy to join the calls.
Cheers
Jiri
On Mon 7. 12. 2020 at 17:11, Romy Beard romy.beard@eifl.net wrote:
Dear all,
We (EIFL) had another call with our consortia contacts in Eastern Europe as well as the respective Nrens. While the call with Jos, Raoul and Peter was very helpful for our contacts in Georgia, there were still some discussions with other countries which understood some things slightly differently ...
I was wondering if one or more of you would be able to join a call with this group? Ideally I would like to organize a set of webinars / calls, focusing on specific issues. So the first one could focus solely on the "first step" i.e. creating an identity management database that would be compliant with EduGain, going over the different ways to do this.
Are any of you able to help with this?
Thank you so much! Best wishes, Romy
*Romy Beard* Licensing Programme Manager Mob: 0044 75 902 900 64 romy.beard@eifl.net | Skype: romy352 *EIFL* - Electronic Information for Libraries Sign up https://eifl.net/sign-up for the EIFL newsletter! www.eifl.net https://eifl.net | Facebook https://www.facebook.com/eIFL.net | Twitter https://twitter.com/EIFLnet | Flickr https://www.flickr.com/photos/eifl/ | YouTube https://www.youtube.com/user/eiflnet
On Wed, 18 Nov 2020 at 14:14, Jos Westerbeke jos.westerbeke@eur.nl wrote:
Hi all,
Today we (Raoul, Peter G. and me) had a call with EIFL ( https://eifl.net/page/about ) representatives initiated by Romy Beard (cc) and several others from countries including Georgia. Several countries in eastern Europe and Africa are seeking to implement federated authentication & authorization infrastructure. This is a rather struggling task to build up NREN's like we are familiar with.
They would have like to hear the 'library voice' about this and that's why they found FIM4L. But they need some help or guidance to build the backbone of AAI. Raoul and Peter G. where kind to provide some helpful information.
It just triggers me that obviously not every country has the luxury of good working NREN's.
If there's anyone out there who is happy to help, you can contact Romy. She can connect you to appropriate persons.
All the best and stay healthy,
Jos
FIM4L mailing list FIM4L@lists.daasi.de http://lists.daasi.de/listinfo/fim4l
Dear Jiri
That's great, thanks. Would you be able to give a short presentation/overview of the different way that libraries can set up an identity management database?
Thanks, Romy
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On Mon, 7 Dec 2020 at 16:32, Jiri Pavlik jiri.pavlik@techlib.cz wrote:
Hi Romy,
I am happy to join the calls.
Cheers
JiriOn Mon 7. 12. 2020 at 17:11, Romy Beard romy.beard@eifl.net wrote:
Dear all,
We (EIFL) had another call with our consortia contacts in Eastern Europe as well as the respective Nrens. While the call with Jos, Raoul and Peter was very helpful for our contacts in Georgia, there were still some discussions with other countries which understood some things slightly differently ...
I was wondering if one or more of you would be able to join a call with this group? Ideally I would like to organize a set of webinars / calls, focusing on specific issues. So the first one could focus solely on the "first step" i.e. creating an identity management database that would be compliant with EduGain, going over the different ways to do this.
Are any of you able to help with this?
Thank you so much! Best wishes, Romy
*Romy Beard* Licensing Programme Manager Mob: 0044 75 902 900 64 romy.beard@eifl.net | Skype: romy352 *EIFL* - Electronic Information for Libraries Sign up https://eifl.net/sign-up for the EIFL newsletter! www.eifl.net https://eifl.net | Facebook https://www.facebook.com/eIFL.net | Twitter https://twitter.com/EIFLnet | Flickr https://www.flickr.com/photos/eifl/ | YouTube https://www.youtube.com/user/eiflnet
On Wed, 18 Nov 2020 at 14:14, Jos Westerbeke jos.westerbeke@eur.nl wrote:
Hi all,
Today we (Raoul, Peter G. and me) had a call with EIFL ( https://eifl.net/page/about ) representatives initiated by Romy Beard (cc) and several others from countries including Georgia. Several countries in eastern Europe and Africa are seeking to implement federated authentication & authorization infrastructure. This is a rather struggling task to build up NREN's like we are familiar with.
They would have like to hear the 'library voice' about this and that's why they found FIM4L. But they need some help or guidance to build the backbone of AAI. Raoul and Peter G. where kind to provide some helpful information.
It just triggers me that obviously not every country has the luxury of good working NREN's.
If there's anyone out there who is happy to help, you can contact Romy. She can connect you to appropriate persons.
All the best and stay healthy,
Jos
FIM4L mailing list FIM4L@lists.daasi.de http://lists.daasi.de/listinfo/fim4l
Dear all,
I wanted to share with you the list of questions from the NRENs i.e. the areas they identified as needing further training. Anyone willing to help, please let me know! Thanks!!
Best wishes, Romy
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On Mon, 7 Dec 2020 at 16:48, Romy Beard romy.beard@eifl.net wrote:
Dear Jiri
That's great, thanks. Would you be able to give a short presentation/overview of the different way that libraries can set up an identity management database?
Thanks, Romy
*Romy Beard* Licensing Programme Manager Mob: 0044 75 902 900 64 romy.beard@eifl.net | Skype: romy352 *EIFL* - Electronic Information for Libraries Sign up https://eifl.net/sign-up for the EIFL newsletter! www.eifl.net https://eifl.net | Facebook https://www.facebook.com/eIFL.net | Twitter https://twitter.com/EIFLnet | Flickr https://www.flickr.com/photos/eifl/ | YouTube https://www.youtube.com/user/eiflnet
On Mon, 7 Dec 2020 at 16:32, Jiri Pavlik jiri.pavlik@techlib.cz wrote:
Hi Romy,
I am happy to join the calls.
Cheers
JiriOn Mon 7. 12. 2020 at 17:11, Romy Beard romy.beard@eifl.net wrote:
Dear all,
We (EIFL) had another call with our consortia contacts in Eastern Europe as well as the respective Nrens. While the call with Jos, Raoul and Peter was very helpful for our contacts in Georgia, there were still some discussions with other countries which understood some things slightly differently ...
I was wondering if one or more of you would be able to join a call with this group? Ideally I would like to organize a set of webinars / calls, focusing on specific issues. So the first one could focus solely on the "first step" i.e. creating an identity management database that would be compliant with EduGain, going over the different ways to do this.
Are any of you able to help with this?
Thank you so much! Best wishes, Romy
*Romy Beard* Licensing Programme Manager Mob: 0044 75 902 900 64 romy.beard@eifl.net | Skype: romy352 *EIFL* - Electronic Information for Libraries Sign up https://eifl.net/sign-up for the EIFL newsletter! www.eifl.net https://eifl.net | Facebook https://www.facebook.com/eIFL.net | Twitter https://twitter.com/EIFLnet | Flickr https://www.flickr.com/photos/eifl/ | YouTube https://www.youtube.com/user/eiflnet
On Wed, 18 Nov 2020 at 14:14, Jos Westerbeke jos.westerbeke@eur.nl wrote:
Hi all,
Today we (Raoul, Peter G. and me) had a call with EIFL ( https://eifl.net/page/about ) representatives initiated by Romy Beard (cc) and several others from countries including Georgia. Several countries in eastern Europe and Africa are seeking to implement federated authentication & authorization infrastructure. This is a rather struggling task to build up NREN's like we are familiar with.
They would have like to hear the 'library voice' about this and that's why they found FIM4L. But they need some help or guidance to build the backbone of AAI. Raoul and Peter G. where kind to provide some helpful information.
It just triggers me that obviously not every country has the luxury of good working NREN's.
If there's anyone out there who is happy to help, you can contact Romy. She can connect you to appropriate persons.
All the best and stay healthy,
Jos
FIM4L mailing list FIM4L@lists.daasi.de http://lists.daasi.de/listinfo/fim4l
Hi Romy,
you may like to take advantage of free webinar from OpenAthens and EBSCO about federated authentication in libraries -
https://more.ebsco.com/remote-auth-wbn-20201210-1394850-registration-lp.html
Cheers
Jiri
On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 1:23 PM Romy Beard romy.beard@eifl.net wrote:
Dear all,
I wanted to share with you the list of questions from the NRENs i.e. the areas they identified as needing further training. Anyone willing to help, please let me know! Thanks!!
Best wishes, Romy
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On Mon, 7 Dec 2020 at 16:48, Romy Beard romy.beard@eifl.net wrote:
Dear Jiri
That's great, thanks. Would you be able to give a short presentation/overview of the different way that libraries can set up an identity management database?
Thanks, Romy
*Romy Beard* Licensing Programme Manager Mob: 0044 75 902 900 64 romy.beard@eifl.net | Skype: romy352 *EIFL* - Electronic Information for Libraries Sign up https://eifl.net/sign-up for the EIFL newsletter! www.eifl.net https://eifl.net | Facebook https://www.facebook.com/eIFL.net | Twitter https://twitter.com/EIFLnet | Flickr https://www.flickr.com/photos/eifl/ | YouTube https://www.youtube.com/user/eiflnet
On Mon, 7 Dec 2020 at 16:32, Jiri Pavlik jiri.pavlik@techlib.cz wrote:
Hi Romy,
I am happy to join the calls.
Cheers
JiriOn Mon 7. 12. 2020 at 17:11, Romy Beard romy.beard@eifl.net wrote:
Dear all,
We (EIFL) had another call with our consortia contacts in Eastern Europe as well as the respective Nrens. While the call with Jos, Raoul and Peter was very helpful for our contacts in Georgia, there were still some discussions with other countries which understood some things slightly differently ...
I was wondering if one or more of you would be able to join a call with this group? Ideally I would like to organize a set of webinars / calls, focusing on specific issues. So the first one could focus solely on the "first step" i.e. creating an identity management database that would be compliant with EduGain, going over the different ways to do this.
Are any of you able to help with this?
Thank you so much! Best wishes, Romy
*Romy Beard* Licensing Programme Manager Mob: 0044 75 902 900 64 romy.beard@eifl.net | Skype: romy352 *EIFL* - Electronic Information for Libraries Sign up https://eifl.net/sign-up for the EIFL newsletter! www.eifl.net https://eifl.net | Facebook https://www.facebook.com/eIFL.net | Twitter https://twitter.com/EIFLnet | Flickr https://www.flickr.com/photos/eifl/ | YouTube https://www.youtube.com/user/eiflnet
On Wed, 18 Nov 2020 at 14:14, Jos Westerbeke jos.westerbeke@eur.nl wrote:
Hi all,
Today we (Raoul, Peter G. and me) had a call with EIFL ( https://eifl.net/page/about ) representatives initiated by Romy Beard (cc) and several others from countries including Georgia. Several countries in eastern Europe and Africa are seeking to implement federated authentication & authorization infrastructure. This is a rather struggling task to build up NREN's like we are familiar with.
They would have like to hear the 'library voice' about this and that's why they found FIM4L. But they need some help or guidance to build the backbone of AAI. Raoul and Peter G. where kind to provide some helpful information.
It just triggers me that obviously not every country has the luxury of good working NREN's.
If there's anyone out there who is happy to help, you can contact Romy. She can connect you to appropriate persons.
All the best and stay healthy,
Jos
FIM4L mailing list FIM4L@lists.daasi.de http://lists.daasi.de/listinfo/fim4l
Hi Romy,
I can give a short overview. Colleagues of mine from eduID.cz already did a training for NRENs regarding setting up a national federation and joining eduGAIN covering all details. Let me know, pls., if you will be interested in organising such training for AzScienceNet, ASNET, BASNET, GRENA, RENAM, URAN.
BR Jiri
On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 5:48 PM Romy Beard romy.beard@eifl.net wrote:
Dear Jiri
That's great, thanks. Would you be able to give a short presentation/overview of the different way that libraries can set up an identity management database?
Thanks, Romy
*Romy Beard* Licensing Programme Manager Mob: 0044 75 902 900 64 romy.beard@eifl.net | Skype: romy352 *EIFL* - Electronic Information for Libraries Sign up https://eifl.net/sign-up for the EIFL newsletter! www.eifl.net https://eifl.net | Facebook https://www.facebook.com/eIFL.net | Twitter https://twitter.com/EIFLnet | Flickr https://www.flickr.com/photos/eifl/ | YouTube https://www.youtube.com/user/eiflnet
On Mon, 7 Dec 2020 at 16:32, Jiri Pavlik jiri.pavlik@techlib.cz wrote:
Hi Romy,
I am happy to join the calls.
Cheers
JiriOn Mon 7. 12. 2020 at 17:11, Romy Beard romy.beard@eifl.net wrote:
Dear all,
We (EIFL) had another call with our consortia contacts in Eastern Europe as well as the respective Nrens. While the call with Jos, Raoul and Peter was very helpful for our contacts in Georgia, there were still some discussions with other countries which understood some things slightly differently ...
I was wondering if one or more of you would be able to join a call with this group? Ideally I would like to organize a set of webinars / calls, focusing on specific issues. So the first one could focus solely on the "first step" i.e. creating an identity management database that would be compliant with EduGain, going over the different ways to do this.
Are any of you able to help with this?
Thank you so much! Best wishes, Romy
*Romy Beard* Licensing Programme Manager Mob: 0044 75 902 900 64 romy.beard@eifl.net | Skype: romy352 *EIFL* - Electronic Information for Libraries Sign up https://eifl.net/sign-up for the EIFL newsletter! www.eifl.net https://eifl.net | Facebook https://www.facebook.com/eIFL.net | Twitter https://twitter.com/EIFLnet | Flickr https://www.flickr.com/photos/eifl/ | YouTube https://www.youtube.com/user/eiflnet
On Wed, 18 Nov 2020 at 14:14, Jos Westerbeke jos.westerbeke@eur.nl wrote:
Hi all,
Today we (Raoul, Peter G. and me) had a call with EIFL ( https://eifl.net/page/about ) representatives initiated by Romy Beard (cc) and several others from countries including Georgia. Several countries in eastern Europe and Africa are seeking to implement federated authentication & authorization infrastructure. This is a rather struggling task to build up NREN's like we are familiar with.
They would have like to hear the 'library voice' about this and that's why they found FIM4L. But they need some help or guidance to build the backbone of AAI. Raoul and Peter G. where kind to provide some helpful information.
It just triggers me that obviously not every country has the luxury of good working NREN's.
If there's anyone out there who is happy to help, you can contact Romy. She can connect you to appropriate persons.
All the best and stay healthy,
Jos
FIM4L mailing list FIM4L@lists.daasi.de http://lists.daasi.de/listinfo/fim4l
The Asia Pacific region has similar challenges and requests for training to help establish identity federations. The Australian Access Federation has been of great help there via the Task Force for Identity and Access Management (TF-IAM) in the Asia Pacific Advanced Network (APAN) consortia. I’d be happy to set up a call or do introductions to see what kind of material can be shared to help these new federations kick off.
Heather Flanagan — Translator of Geek to Human https://sphericalcowconsulting.com On Dec 9, 2020, 6:21 AM -0800, Jiri Pavlik jiri.pavlik@techlib.cz, wrote:
Hi Romy,
I can give a short overview. Colleagues of mine from eduID.cz already did a training for NRENs regarding setting up a national federation and joining eduGAIN covering all details. Let me know, pls., if you will be interested in organising such training for AzScienceNet, ASNET, BASNET, GRENA, RENAM, URAN.
BR Jiri
On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 5:48 PM Romy Beard romy.beard@eifl.net wrote:
Dear Jiri
That's great, thanks. Would you be able to give a short presentation/overview of the different way that libraries can set up an identity management database?
Thanks, Romy
Romy Beard Licensing Programme Manager Mob: 0044 75 902 900 64 romy.beard@eifl.net | Skype: romy352 EIFL - Electronic Information for Libraries Sign up for the EIFL newsletter! www.eifl.net | Facebook | Twitter | Flickr | YouTube
On Mon, 7 Dec 2020 at 16:32, Jiri Pavlik jiri.pavlik@techlib.cz wrote:
Hi Romy,
I am happy to join the calls.
Cheers
Jiri
On Mon 7. 12. 2020 at 17:11, Romy Beard romy.beard@eifl.net wrote: > Dear all, > > We (EIFL) had another call with our consortia contacts in Eastern Europe as well as the respective Nrens. While the call with Jos, Raoul and Peter was very helpful for our contacts in Georgia, there were still some discussions with other countries which understood some things slightly differently ... > > I was wondering if one or more of you would be able to join a call with this group? > Ideally I would like to organize a set of webinars / calls, focusing on specific issues. So the first one could focus solely on the "first step" i.e. creating an identity management database that would be compliant with EduGain, going over the different ways to do this. > > Are any of you able to help with this? > > Thank you so much! > Best wishes, > Romy > > Romy Beard > Licensing Programme Manager > Mob: 0044 75 902 900 64 > romy.beard@eifl.net | Skype: romy352 > EIFL - Electronic Information for Libraries > Sign up for the EIFL newsletter! > www.eifl.net | Facebook | Twitter | Flickr | YouTube > > > > On Wed, 18 Nov 2020 at 14:14, Jos Westerbeke jos.westerbeke@eur.nl wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > Today we (Raoul, Peter G. and me) had a call with EIFL (https://eifl.net/page/about ) representatives initiated by Romy Beard (cc) and several others from countries including Georgia. Several countries in eastern Europe and Africa are seeking to implement federated authentication & authorization infrastructure. This is a rather struggling task to build up NREN's like we are familiar with. > > > > > > They would have like to hear the 'library voice' about this and that's why they found FIM4L. But they need some help or guidance to build the backbone of AAI. Raoul and Peter G. where kind to provide some helpful information. > > > > > > It just triggers me that obviously not every country has the luxury of good working NREN's. > > > > > > If there's anyone out there who is happy to help, you can contact Romy. She can connect you to appropriate persons. > > > > > > All the best and stay healthy, > > > Jos > _______________________________________________ > FIM4L mailing list > FIM4L@lists.daasi.de > http://lists.daasi.de/listinfo/fim4l
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I would love to join, but I don’t think I’m technical enough to be of help. Please let me know if I need to assist in finding someone with more technical help.
From: FIM4L fim4l-bounces@lists.daasi.de On Behalf Of Romy Beard Sent: maandag 7 december 2020 17:11 To: Jos Westerbeke jos.westerbeke@eur.nl Cc: fim4l@lists.daasi.de; jevgenija.sevcova@eifl.net Subject: Re: [Fim4l] World is not covered with NREN's and good AAI
Dear all,
We (EIFL) had another call with our consortia contacts in Eastern Europe as well as the respective Nrens. While the call with Jos, Raoul and Peter was very helpful for our contacts in Georgia, there were still some discussions with other countries which understood some things slightly differently ...
I was wondering if one or more of you would be able to join a call with this group? Ideally I would like to organize a set of webinars / calls, focusing on specific issues. So the first one could focus solely on the "first step" i.e. creating an identity management database that would be compliant with EduGain, going over the different ways to do this.
Are any of you able to help with this?
Thank you so much! Best wishes, Romy
Romy Beard Licensing Programme Manager Mob: 0044 75 902 900 64 romy.beard@eifl.netmailto:romy.beard@eifl.net | Skype: romy352 EIFL - Electronic Information for Libraries Sign uphttps://eifl.net/sign-up for the EIFL newsletter! www.eifl.nethttps://eifl.net | Facebookhttps://www.facebook.com/eIFL.net | Twitterhttps://twitter.com/EIFLnet | Flickrhttps://www.flickr.com/photos/eifl/ | YouTubehttps://www.youtube.com/user/eiflnet
On Wed, 18 Nov 2020 at 14:14, Jos Westerbeke <jos.westerbeke@eur.nlmailto:jos.westerbeke@eur.nl> wrote: Hi all,
Today we (Raoul, Peter G. and me) had a call with EIFL (https://eifl.net/page/about ) representatives initiated by Romy Beard (cc) and several others from countries including Georgia. Several countries in eastern Europe and Africa are seeking to implement federated authentication & authorization infrastructure. This is a rather struggling task to build up NREN's like we are familiar with.
They would have like to hear the 'library voice' about this and that's why they found FIM4L. But they need some help or guidance to build the backbone of AAI. Raoul and Peter G. where kind to provide some helpful information.
It just triggers me that obviously not every country has the luxury of good working NREN's.
If there's anyone out there who is happy to help, you can contact Romy. She can connect you to appropriate persons.
All the best and stay healthy, Jos
Dear Romy,
unfortunately I am still catching up with my emails after a longer illness.
This is just to say, that I enjoyed the meeting very much and that I am happy to participate in similar events in the future.
Cheers,
Peter
Am 07.12.2020 um 17:10 schrieb Romy Beard:
Dear all,
We (EIFL) had another call with our consortia contacts in Eastern Europe as well as the respective Nrens. While the call with Jos, Raoul and Peter was very helpful for our contacts in Georgia, there were still some discussions with other countries which understood some things slightly differently ...
I was wondering if one or more of you would be able to join a call with this group? Ideally I would like to organize a set of webinars / calls, focusing on specific issues. So the first one could focus solely on the "first step" i.e. creating an identity management database that would be compliant with EduGain, going over the different ways to do this.
Are any of you able to help with this?
Thank you so much! Best wishes, Romy
*Romy Beard* Licensing Programme Manager Mob: 0044 75 902 900 64 romy.beard@eifl.net mailto:romy.beard@eifl.net | Skype: romy352 *EIFL* - Electronic Information for Libraries Sign up https://eifl.net/sign-up for the EIFL newsletter! www.eifl.net https://eifl.net | Facebook https://www.facebook.com/eIFL.net | Twitter https://twitter.com/EIFLnet | Flickr https://www.flickr.com/photos/eifl/ | YouTube https://www.youtube.com/user/eiflnet
On Wed, 18 Nov 2020 at 14:14, Jos Westerbeke <jos.westerbeke@eur.nl mailto:jos.westerbeke@eur.nl> wrote:
Hi all, Today we (Raoul, Peter G. and me) had a call with EIFL (https://eifl.net/page/about <https://eifl.net/page/about> ) representatives initiated by Romy Beard (cc) and several others from countries including Georgia. Several countries in eastern Europe and Africa are seeking to implement federated authentication & authorization infrastructure. This is a rather struggling task to build up NREN's like we are familiar with. They would have like to hear the 'library voice' about this and that's why they found FIM4L. But they need some help or guidance to build the backbone of AAI. Raoul and Peter G. where kind to provide some helpful information. It just triggers me that obviously not every country has the luxury of good working NREN's. If there's anyone out there who is happy to help, you can contact Romy. She can connect you to appropriate persons. All the best and stay healthy, Jos
FIM4L mailing list FIM4L@lists.daasi.de http://lists.daasi.de/listinfo/fim4l
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