[Fim4l] Statistics issue use-case

[Peter Gietz]

Am 14.05.2019 um 16:39 schrieb Nick Roy:
>
> On 14 May 2019, at 8:14, Peter Schober wrote:
>
>> * Peter Gietz <peter.gietz at daasi.de> [2019-05-14 16:06]:
>>> No I don't think FIM4L should take a stand in this, but I just
>>> wanted to name the political context here to explain, why libraries
>>> are often negative towards RA21 and the SSO technology they are
>>> promoting.
>> OK
>>
>> FIM4L only comes into play once access control exists, I think:
>> That access control may not (and possibly should not) happen because
>> of all the reasons one would want Open Access is something that needs
>> to happen before, IMO.
>>
>>>>> Coco and R&S -> more personal data
>>>> Those exist and there's nothing to do for FIM4L other than maybe to
>>>> promote their use where appropriate.
>>>>
>>>>> publisherCoCo -> less (but not zero) personal data
>>>> This use-case is still unclear to me, esp since you seem to be
>>>> intending to force this category on (only) some publishers -- to/and
>>>> prevent them from opt'ing in to "proper" CoCo to reviece more data?
>>>> And who would ultimately decide on good (reviece PII) and bad (recieve
>>>> less data) publishers?
>>> I never spoke of two different kinds of publishers, only about different
>>> types of Service Providers (publishers vs. research infrastructures)
>> Then please s/publishers/Service Providers/ in the sentence above.
>>
>>>> If each institution we're already there (every IDP decides for
>>>> itself). If you're aiming for global agreement I'd sure like to
>>>> know how you imagine that happening.  So I'd invite you to
>>>> actually write up the proposal for the category somewhere, in as
>>>> specific language as you can. e.g. on the REFEDS wiki.
>>> Well before I do so, I wanted to discuss here whether it would be worth
>>> while or not. Since I didn't convince you and since no one else seemed
>>> interested, I'd at this point rather not push this further.
>> Maybe we can set aside a bit of time to hash this out outside of this
>> list?
> Might be a good agenda item for the meeting in Tallinn.

+1

Cheers,
Peter G.

>
> Nick
>
>> Cheers,
>> -peter
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