[Fim4l] Elsevier unilaterally shutting down pseudonymous access to institutionally licensed resources?

[Jiri Pavlik]

Hi Meshna,

thanks a lot for the comments.  I can see now that via 'check access'
I can sign in
anonymously without registration, without providing e-mail address.

Best regards

                  Jiri


On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 3:00 PM Koren, Meshna (ELS-AMS)
<M.Koren at elsevier.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Peter, all,
>
> That is not quite correct but what has happened is this:
> 1. 'sign in' link expects a user to want to 'sign in' as an individual
> 2. if you find an article that your institution doesn't subscribe to, you will also see 'check access' button and signing in via your IdP that way will allow you to sign in as anonymous institutional user
>
> Admittedly this has caused some grief (as a lot of folks testing do exactly that - they go to homepage and can only use 'sign in' button - and we're trying to solve it by providing an additional option via 'sign in' that would allow you to bypass registration.
>
> We're changing a lot of logic at out end and we're not done yet.
>
> Thanks,
> Meshna
>
>
>
> Meshna Koren
>
> Associate Product Manager
> Product Management - Identity and Platform - Research Products
>
> Elsevier BV
> Radarweg 29, Amsterdam 1043 NX, The Netherlands
> m.koren at elsevier.com
>
> Federated Access - SAML, Shibboleth, Corporate SSO, OpenAthens, Institutional Login
>
>
>
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>
> Hi,
>
> I can confirm that. I cannot sign in at Science Direct without providing e-mail address now.
>
> Could you comment on that, Koren, please? Is Elsevier going to implement https://seamlessaccess.org/ and fim4l.org recommendations?
>
> Best regards
>
>              Jiri
>
> On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 12:28 PM Peter Schober <peter.schober at univie.ac.at> wrote:
> >
> > * Peter Schober <peter.schober at univie.ac.at> [2019-09-04 11:57]:
> > > in order to log I'm requested to register an account (even after
> > > having logged in successfully via my institution[1]) by providing an
> > > email address and, later on, also my full name:
> >
> > Note that while there have been comments about Elsevier and manual
> > registration on this list earlier this year those were all in the
> > context of the subject herself wanting to make use of personalisation:
> >
> > * Bernd Oberknapp <bo at ub.uni-freiburg.de> [2019-07-18 16:55]:
> > > Elsevier forces users to register with their names and email
> > > addresses (and maybe also additional data), otherwise the
> > > personalized features cannot be used
> >
> > * Koren, Meshna (ELS-AMS) <M.Koren at elsevier.com> [2019-07-18 22:18]:
> > > We (Elsevier [...]) tie a targetedID to an 'Elsevier user account'
> > > which is created in our database when a user decides to 'activate
> > > personalization'
> >
> > Whereas right now I'm prompted to disclose personal information to
> > simply log in to the site[1], without requesting anything at all, esp
> > not the activation of personalisation features?
> >
> > -peter
> >
> > [1] https://www.sciencedirect.com/ -> Sign in -> Sign in via your
> > institution -> (log at inst. in and return) -> "Welcome. Enter your
> > email to continue with ScienceDirect" / "Email is required".
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