[Fim4l] Question about library/publisher reporting
bo at ub.uni-freiburg.de
Thu Jul 16 19:14:38 CEST 2020
the COUNTER_SUSHI API usually is used for application to application
communication, so I'm wondering why SAML should be considered for this
case. Which libraries/consortia have suggested this and what is their
On 16.07.20 18:31, Heather Flanagan wrote:
> HI Bernd,
> This would be very much like extending COUNTER. Authorization attributes
> are a different thing; the feedback from the group discussing this feels
> that authorization should be handled via an entitlement attribute,
> whereas this kind of reporting should be in something else.
> I don’t know if the answer is to extend the API, or do something else.
> It would be good to get folks together to talk about the possibilities.
> Heather Flanagan — Translator of Geek to Human
> On Jul 16, 2020, 9:02 AM -0700, Bernd Oberknapp <bo at ub.uni-freiburg.de>,
>> Hi Heather,
>> there have been discussions to use SAML to transmit information (e.g.
>> group membership) to publishers and then break the usage reports down by
>> that information, which has been discussed before and would be possible
>> by using extended COUNTER Master Reports, but that doesn't seem to be
>> the goal? Is the intention to protect access to the usage reports by
>> SAML? That would be possible for the administrative web sites, but I
>> don't think that it would make sense for the COUNTER_SUSHI API since
>> that would add a lot of complexity. I'm a member of the group that has
>> written the COUNTER specification, and the intention was to keep this as
>> simple a possible which is why a) only the methods listed in section 8.2
>> of the Code of Practice are permitted and b) the parameters are simply
>> passed in the URL, including the authentication information.
>> Best regards,
>> On 16.07.20 17:37, Heather Flanagan wrote:
>>> Hello FIM4L members!
>>> How many of you get reports from publishers on usage stats for billing
>>> purposes (maybe by using the COUNTER-SUSHI standards)? Have any of you
>>> done anything different to get this kind of information into a SAML
>>> workflow? A small group is spinning up in the REFEDS Schema area that’s
>>> discussing the possibilities here, and while we have publishers on hand
>>> to describe the use case, I was wondering what this might look like
>>> the library perspective.
>>> Feedback and further information most welcome!
>>> Heather Flanagan — Translator of Geek to Human
>>> FIM4L mailing list
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>> Bernd Oberknapp
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