Hi Jos, Hi JIri, hi all

just to let you know at the round table there was quite a lot of criticism of RA21 and thus on the implementation of SAML for scholarly publications which should be Open Access any way. A lot of people saw a political agenda of publishers behind RA21. SAML authentication, even if IdP sends no personal data to SP allows for user behaviour tracking and that might be the publishers interest to allow for things like "scholars who read this article also read that article". They would only need targetedID for that. I don't want to decide, whether such is a good thing or a bad thing, we should just be aware of it and may be put some languge about this in the proto-charter.

Thanks and cheers,

Peter

Am 23.01.2019 um 09:16 schrieb Jos Westerbeke:

Hi Peter,

thank you and have a nice trip! We will do our best to make a good start with FIM4L.

@Jiri:

Are you fine with me welcoming and introducing the meeting tomorrow? We can discuss afterwards all together.

Then, I'll send an agenda to the participants:

• Welcome

• Introduction to the matter

• Time to discuss (see the 'proto charter' document

https://docs.google.com/document/d/17EllwItlnB3fYhJ2ZNpX6Z1gUfF1948ORRvtbIA_l88/edit)

• Next meeting

I can introduce already three new members. Two university librarians! (NL, DE) And one from our national federation SURFconext. And more to be expected!

Jos

*From: *Jiri Pavlik jiri.pavlik@mzk.cz *Date: *Wednesday, 23 January 2019 at 08:08 *To: *Peter peter.gietz@daasi.de *Cc: *Boris Günthner boris.guenthner@daasi.de, Jos Westerbeke jos.westerbeke@eur.nl *Subject: *Re: WG: FIM4L

Hi Peter,

thanks a lot, have a nice trip!

Jiri

On Tue, 22 Jan 2019 at 20:48, Peter <peter.gietz@daasi.de mailto:peter.gietz@daasi.de> wrote:

Hi Jiri, hi Jos,

this was the invitation to participation, which was sent by the
organizer of the round table.

Boris (Cc) maintains the fim4l list. Please indicate to him, whom
to include into that list after you recieved responses.

I will be off-line the major part of the next three weeks.

Cheers,

Peter



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WG: FIM4L

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Göttker, Susanne <Susanne.Goettker@ulb.hhu.de>
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Sehr geehrte Teilnehmerinnen und Teilnehmer am Rundgespräch zu
RA21 in der vergangenen Woche,
liebe Kolleginnen und Kollegen,

während unseres Treffens berichtete Peter Gietz von FIM4L -
Federated Identity Management for Libraries.
Bei der Frage, ob Sie an weiteren Informationen zu FIM4L
interessiert sind, hatten Sie sich mehrheitlich gemeldet, weswegen
ich Ihnen hiermit das Anschreiben von Herrn Gietz (s.u.) weiterleite.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Susanne Göttker



    Dear participants of the round table discussion on RA21 in Berlin,

    As was mentioned in named meeting, a new group called FIM4L is about to

    forming itself that wants to promote the usage of SSO technologies as used by

    eduGAIN within the library communities.

    We are currently forming the group as a mailing list and are working on a text

    we call proto-charter (see[1]).

    As the round table was dedicated to exactly the same subject, I thought some of

    you might be interested to join this group in its early stage.

    At one point of time we will also have an announce mailing list, if you only want

    to be updated on the work but not actively be involved.

    A first meeting under the name of FIM4L is planned to take place on January

    24th, which I will unfortunately miss because of a longer vacation:

    The call will be held on Thursday January 24th 15:00-16:00 CET athttps://meet.google.com/ppq-dqwn-zgo

    So please indicate to Jos, Jiri and me,

    * if you are willing to become active member

    * if you will be able to join the virtual meeting on Thursday

    * if you want to be kept updated about the working progress

    It was wonderful for me to meet you all in Berlin and I hope to see some of you

    again also in the frame of FIM4L.

    Best regards,

    Peter

    [1]

    https://docs.google.com/document/d/17EllwItlnB3fYhJ2ZNpX6Z1gUfF1948ORRvtbIA_l88/edit

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